From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/huge_memory: fix shrinking of all-zero THPs with max_ptes_none default
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:58:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b56b43c1-d49d-4302-a171-9b00bf9cfa54@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b9ee2fe-91ef-4475-905c-cf0943ada720@gmail.com>
On 05.09.25 16:53, Usama Arif wrote:
>
>
> On 05/09/2025 15:46, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>
>>> The reason I did this is for the case if you change max_ptes_none after the THP is added
>>> to deferred split list but *before* memory pressure, i.e. before the shrinker runs,
>>> so that its considered for splitting.
>>
>> Yeah, I was assuming that was the reason why the shrinker is enabled as default.
>>
>> But in any sane system, the admin would enable the shrinker early. If not, we can look into handling it differently.
>
> Yes, I do this as well, i.e. have a low value from the start.
>
> Does it make sense to disable shrinker if max_ptes_none is 511? It wont shrink
> the usecase you are describing below, but we wont encounter the increased CPU usage.>
I don't really see why we should do that.
If the shrinker is a problem than the shrinker should be disabled. But
if it is enabled, we should be shrinking as documented.
Without more magic around our THP toggles (we want less) :)
Shrinking happens when we are under memory pressure, so I am not really
sure how relevant the scanning bit is, and if it is relevant enought to
change the shrinker default.
--
Cheers
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-05 14:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-05 14:11 [PATCH v1] mm/huge_memory: fix shrinking of all-zero THPs with max_ptes_none default David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:37 ` Zi Yan
2025-09-05 14:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-06 6:35 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-05 14:43 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:58 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:40 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:53 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-05 15:01 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:16 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:53 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:57 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 16:47 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 16:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 17:26 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-08 9:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-14 14:04 ` Dev Jain
2025-09-15 8:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:02 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-05 15:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 11:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-06 6:39 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-08 2:16 ` Baolin Wang
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