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From: jane.chu@oracle.com
To: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>,
	nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, linmiaohe@huawei.com
Cc: tony.luck@intel.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, osalvador@suse.de,
	rientjes@google.com, duenwen@google.com, jthoughton@google.com,
	jgg@nvidia.com, ankita@nvidia.com, peterx@redhat.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, jane.chu@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/2] mm/memory-failure: introduce global MFR policy
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:50:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b69d8df6-2bfd-42f9-a475-489c593b9423@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240924043924.3562257-2-jiaqiyan@google.com>

Hi,

On 9/23/2024 9:39 PM, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
>   
> +	/*
> +	 * On ARM64, if APEI failed to claims SEA, (e.g. GHES driver doesn't
> +	 * register to SEA notifications from firmware), memory_failure will
> +	 * never be synchrounous to the error consumption thread. Notifying
> +	 * it via SIGBUS synchrnously has to be done by either core kernel in
> +	 * do_mem_abort, or KVM in kvm_handle_guest_abort.
> +	 */
> +	if (!sysctl_enable_hard_offline) {
> +		pr_info_once("%#lx: disabled by /proc/sys/vm/enable_hard_offline\n", pfn);
> +		kill_procs_now(p, pfn, flags, page_folio(p));
> +		res = -EOPNOTSUPP;
> +		goto unlock_mutex;
> +	}
> +

I am curious why the SIGBUS is sent without setting PG_hwpoison in the 
page.   In 0/2 there seems to be indication about threads coordinate 
with each other such that clean subpages in a poisoned hugetlb page 
continue to be accessible, and at some point, (or perhaps I misread), 
the poisoned page (sub- or huge-) will eventually be isolated, because, 
it's unthinkable to let a poisoned page laying around and kernel treats 
it like a clean page ?  But I'm not sure how do you plan to handle it 
without PG_hwpoison while hard_offline is disabled globally.

Another thing I'm curious at is whether you have tested with real 
hardware UE - the one that triggers MCE.  When a real UE is consumed by 
the training process, the user process must longjmp out in order to 
avoid getting stuck at the same instruction that fetched a UE memory.  
Given a longjmp is needed (unless I am missing something), the training 
process is already in a situation where it has to figure out things like 
rewind, where-to-restart-from, does it even keep states? etc. On the 
whole, whether the burden to ask user application to deal with what's 
lacking in the kernel, namely the lack of splitting up a hugetlb page, 
is worthwhile, is something that need to be weighed over.

Thanks,

-jane




  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-02 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-24  4:39 [RFC PATCH v1 0/2] Userspace Can Control Memory Failure Recovery Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-24  4:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/2] mm/memory-failure: introduce global MFR policy Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-02 23:50   ` jane.chu [this message]
2024-10-03 23:51     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-07 17:24       ` jane.chu
2024-10-10 23:21         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-11 18:28           ` jane.chu
2024-10-11 19:44             ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-11 20:15               ` jane.chu
2024-10-15 23:45             ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-15 23:56               ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-16  0:19                 ` jane.chu
2024-10-11  7:04       ` Miaohe Lin
2024-10-15 23:58         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-24  4:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/2] docs: mm: add enable_hard_offline sysctl Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-02 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/2] Userspace Can Control Memory Failure Recovery Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-03 22:45   ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-03 22:58     ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-03 23:19       ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-03 23:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 18:32       ` Jiaqi Yan

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