From: Hui Zhu <hui.zhu@linux.dev>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>, Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Hui Zhu <zhuhui@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] mm: workingset: fix the shadow node budget under MGLRU
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 10:29:19 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc8d46f4-4bdd-45b6-8c68-09a8b7556dc3@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260908183733.ea115c9f8e6f88220d1b9b5b@linux-foundation.org>
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 11:41:10 +0800 Hui Zhu <hui.zhu@linux.dev> wrote:
>
>> From: Hui Zhu <zhuhui@kylinos.cn>
>>
>> Commit 7404bd37cfbe ("mm: workingset: use lruvec_lru_size() to get the
>> number of lru pages") broke the workingset shadow node budget under
>> MGLRU: lruvec_lru_size() reads mz->lru_zone_size, which MGLRU never
>> maintains, so count_shadow_nodes() sees the evictable LRU lists as
>> empty and the shadow shrinker reclaims eviction tokens almost as fast
>> as they are created, losing thrashing protection.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Performance testing
>> ===================
>>
>> The test script and the raw results are available at [1].
>>
>> Environment: 10-vCPU QEMU guest, 8 GiB RAM, cgroup v2; 7 runs per
>> configuration, medians reported. Workloads:
>>
>> w1-anon-churn: single-threaded anon fault/charge loop in a memcg
>> (MADV_DONTNEED + re-fault, no reclaim). Every touch
>> is a real fault with charge and memcg stat updates,
>> so it stresses exactly the fast path patch 1 changes.
>> w2-file-churn: file read loop under memory.high pressure
>> (reclaim-bound, noisier).
>> w3-reparent: reparent accounting sanity check.
>>
>> w1-anon-churn (pages/s):
>>
>> classic LRU MGLRU
>> base 4393028 4377122
>> patches 1-2 4385996 (-0.2%) 4352887 (-0.6%)
>> patches 1-3 4381832 (-0.3%) 4377053 (+0.0%)
>>
>> w2-file-churn (MB/s):
>>
>> classic LRU MGLRU
>> base 8277 8226
>> patches 1-2 8226 (-0.6%) 8123 (-1.3%)
>> patches 1-3 8157 (-1.4%) 8294 (+0.8%)
> Am I misinterpreting this? This difference is probably within
> inter-run variability?
>
You are reading it correctly.
The w2-file-churn differences are within run-to-run noise: it is a
reclaim-bound workload dominated by reclaim and I/O, which is too noisy
to expose the small fast-path overhead.
That is what the "within run-to-run noise" note in the cover letter
refers to.
The meaningful signal is in w1-anon-churn, which is designed to hit
exactly the fast path patch 1 changes: every iteration is a real fault
with charge and memcg stat updates, no reclaim involved.
There patches 1-2 show a consistent small overhead (-0.2%/-0.6%), and
patch 3 brings both LRU configurations back to the base level.
I can reword the cover letter in the next version to make this clearer
if you think it would help.
Best,
Hui
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-10 2:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-08 3:41 [PATCH v4 0/4] mm: workingset: fix the shadow node budget under MGLRU Hui Zhu
2026-09-08 3:41 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] mm: memcg: redirect stats updates of dying memcgs for all hierarchies Hui Zhu
2026-09-08 3:41 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] mm: workingset: use lruvec_page_state_local() to count lru pages Hui Zhu
2026-09-08 3:41 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] mm: memcg: skip the RCU lock when the memcg is not dying Hui Zhu
2026-09-08 3:41 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] mm: memcg: reparent non-hierarchical lruvec stats on cgroup v2 Hui Zhu
2026-09-09 1:37 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] mm: workingset: fix the shadow node budget under MGLRU Andrew Morton
2026-09-10 2:29 ` Hui Zhu [this message]
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