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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@google.com>,
	"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	namit@vmware.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] Use global pages with PTI
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 17:40:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <be2e683c-bf0a-e9ce-2f02-4905f6bd56d3@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwEC1O+6qRc35XwpcuLSgJ+0GP6ciqw_1Oc-msX=efLvQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/23/2018 11:26 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Dave Hansen
> <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> This adds one major change from the last version of the patch set
>> (present in the last patch).  It makes all kernel text global for non-
>> PCID systems.  This keeps kernel data protected always, but means that
>> it will be easier to find kernel gadgets via meltdown on old systems
>> without PCIDs.  This heuristic is, I think, a reasonable one and it
>> keeps us from having to create any new pti=foo options
> 
> Sounds sane.
> 
> The patches look reasonable, but I hate seeing a patch series like
> this where the only ostensible reason is performance, and there are no
> performance numbers anywhere..

Well, rats.  This somehow makes things slower with PCIDs on.  I thought
I reversed the numbers, but I actually do a "grep -c GLB
/sys/kernel/debug/page_tables/kernel" and record that in my logs right
next to the output of time(1), so it's awfully hard to screw up.

This is time doing a modestly-sized kernel compile on a 4-core Skylake
desktop.

                        User Time       Kernel Time     Clock Elapsed
Baseline ( 0 GLB PTEs)  803.79          67.77           237.30
w/series (28 GLB PTEs)  807.70 (+0.7%)  68.07 (+0.7%)   238.07 (+0.3%)

Without PCIDs, it behaves the way I would expect.

I'll ask around, but I'm open to any ideas about what the heck might be
causing this.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-24  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-23 17:44 [PATCH 00/11] Use global pages with PTI Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:44 ` [PATCH 01/11] x86/mm: factor out pageattr _PAGE_GLOBAL setting Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:44 ` [PATCH 02/11] x86/mm: undo double _PAGE_PSE clearing Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:44 ` [PATCH 03/11] x86/mm: introduce "default" kernel PTE mask Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:44 ` [PATCH 04/11] x86/espfix: document use of _PAGE_GLOBAL Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:44 ` [PATCH 05/11] x86/mm: do not auto-massage page protections Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 19:15   ` Nadav Amit
2018-03-23 19:26     ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 19:34       ` Nadav Amit
2018-03-23 19:38         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-24 15:10   ` kbuild test robot
2018-03-24 15:21   ` kbuild test robot
2018-03-23 17:44 ` [PATCH 06/11] x86/mm: remove extra filtering in pageattr code Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:44 ` [PATCH 07/11] x86/mm: comment _PAGE_GLOBAL mystery Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:44 ` [PATCH 08/11] x86/mm: do not forbid _PAGE_RW before init for __ro_after_init Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:45 ` [PATCH 09/11] x86/pti: enable global pages for shared areas Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 19:12   ` Nadav Amit
2018-03-23 19:36     ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:45 ` [PATCH 10/11] x86/pti: clear _PAGE_GLOBAL for kernel image Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 17:45 ` [PATCH 11/11] x86/pti: leave kernel text global for !PCID Dave Hansen
2018-03-23 18:26 ` [PATCH 00/11] Use global pages with PTI Linus Torvalds
2018-03-24  0:40   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2018-03-24  0:46     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-24  0:54       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-24 11:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-27 13:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-27 16:32       ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-27 17:51         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-27 20:07           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-27 20:19             ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-29  0:17             ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-30 12:09               ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-30 12:17                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-30 20:26                   ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-30 20:32                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-30 21:40                       ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-31  5:39                         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-31 18:19                           ` Dave Hansen

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