From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
will@kernel.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
ryan.roberts@arm.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
riel@surriel.com, harry.yoo@oracle.com, jannh@google.com,
willy@infradead.org, dev.jain@arm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/5] mm: rmap: support batched checks of the references for large folios
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 09:47:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfd282b1-523d-4945-97a0-ec30fe1df577@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e227a7f7-0186-4d10-b7b4-c84ca8424bdd@lucifer.local>
On 3/25/26 11:06 PM, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 03:58:36PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 3/25/26 15:36, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 03:15:18PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>> On 3/16/26 07:25, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure. However, after investigating RISC‑V and x86, I found that
>>>>> ptep_clear_flush_young() does not flush the TLB on these architectures:
>>>>>
>>>>> int ptep_clear_flush_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>>>> unsigned long address, pte_t *ptep)
>>>>> {
>>>>> /*
>>>>> * On x86 CPUs, clearing the accessed bit without a TLB flush
>>>>> * doesn't cause data corruption. [ It could cause incorrect
>>>>> * page aging and the (mistaken) reclaim of hot pages, but the
>>>>> * chance of that should be relatively low. ]
>>>>> *
>>>>> * So as a performance optimization don't flush the TLB when
>>>>> * clearing the accessed bit, it will eventually be flushed by
>>>>> * a context switch or a VM operation anyway. [ In the rare
>>>>> * event of it not getting flushed for a long time the delay
>>>>> * shouldn't really matter because there's no real memory
>>>>> * pressure for swapout to react to. ]
>>>>> */
>>>>> return ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, address, ptep);
>>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> You'd probably want an arch helper then, that tells you whether
>>>> a flush_tlb_range() after ptep_test_and_clear_young() is required.
>>>>
>>>> Or some special flush_tlb_range() helper.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that it requires more work.
(Sorry, David. I forgot to reply to your email because I've had a lot to
sort out recently.)
Rather than adding more arch helpers (we already have plenty for the
young flag check), I think we should try removing the TLB flush, as I
mentioned to Barry[1]. MGLRU reclaim already skips the TLB flush, and it
seems to work fine. What do you think?
Here are our previous attempts to remove the TLB flush:
My patch: https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/10/24/533
Barry's patch:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220617070555.344368-1-21cnbao@gmail.com/
[1]
https://lore.kernel.org/all/6bdc4b03-9631-4717-a3fa-2785a7930aba@linux.alibaba.com/
>>> Sorry unclear here - does the series need more work or does a follow up patch
>>> need more work?
>>
>> Follow up!
>
> Ok good as in mm-stable now. Sadly means I don't get to review it but there we
> go.
Actually this patchset has already been merged upstream:)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-26 1:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-09 14:07 [PATCH v6 0/5] support batch checking of references and unmapping for large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] mm: rmap: support batched checks of the references " Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-06 21:07 ` Barry Song
2026-03-07 2:22 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-07 8:02 ` Barry Song
2026-03-10 1:37 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-10 8:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16 6:25 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-16 14:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-25 14:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-25 15:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 15:30 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 15:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 16:23 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 16:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 18:43 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 18:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 1:47 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-03-26 5:31 ` Barry Song
2026-03-26 11:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 12:04 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-26 12:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 10:20 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 7:30 ` Barry Song
2026-03-18 1:37 ` Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] arm64: mm: factor out the address and ptep alignment into a new helper Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] arm64: mm: support batch clearing of the young flag for large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] arm64: mm: implement the architecture-specific clear_flush_young_ptes() Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-10 0:39 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-06 21:20 ` Barry Song
2026-03-07 2:14 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-07 7:41 ` Barry Song
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] mm: rmap: support batched unmapping for file large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-10 1:53 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] support batch checking of references and unmapping for " Andrew Morton
2026-02-10 2:01 ` Baolin Wang
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