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From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	William Roche <william.roche@oracle.com>,
	Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>,
	linmiaohe@huawei.com, ljs@kernel.org, ziy@nvidia.com
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	akpm@linux-foundation.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] Only free healthy pages in high-order has_hwpoisoned folio
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 10:58:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5658175-8d1d-4aec-9a66-b07d53f75547@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e48c288-2183-4d58-b69d-5f78344b5da5@kernel.org>

On 8/4/26 21:51, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 7/28/26 19:18, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> On 7/27/26 16:20, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> On 7/22/26 10:27, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Would it truly fix the issue, or rather there would still be a race window
>>>> left where we check that there's no hwpoison flag in the re-enabled check,
>>>> and only then someone sets it?
>>>
>>> Why are we checking PageHWPoison at all then in check_new_page()?
>> 
>> We check all kinds of unexpected state, when that's enable. PageHWPoison
>> could have been considered unexpected too, when the checks were made more
>> and more optional (first by Mel and then me).
>> 
>> But indeed it seems the PageHWPoison check is supposed to be load-bearing
>> (hi, Lorenzo!). It's intentionally handled before bad_page() (with a taint)
>> in check_new_page_bad(). Commits 2a7684a23e9c and f4c18e6f7b5b are also a hint.
>> 
>>> I think we created a mess.
>> 
>> Yes, the PageHWPoison handling was made part of debugging sanity check and
>> then not recognized properly as load-bearing later.
> 
> BTW, I'd assume we can check for PageHWPoison at free time fairly efficiently, as we
> touch all page flags already.
> 
> Something along the lines of:
> 
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index 520ebd2fa40b5..57f89f8684168 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -1321,6 +1321,7 @@ static __always_inline bool __free_pages_prepare(struct page *page,
>         bool init = want_init_on_free();
>         bool compound = PageCompound(page);
>         struct folio *folio = page_folio(page);
> +       unsigned int hwpoisoned = 0;
>  
>         if (fpi_flags & FPI_PREPARED)
>                 return true;
> @@ -1347,21 +1348,6 @@ static __always_inline bool __free_pages_prepare(struct page *page,
>                 count_vm_events(UNEVICTABLE_PGCLEARED, nr_pages);
>         }
>  
> -       if (unlikely(PageHWPoison(page)) && !order) {
> -               /* Do not let hwpoison pages hit pcplists/buddy */
> -               reset_page_owner(page, order);
> -               page_table_check_free(page, order);
> -               pgalloc_tag_sub(page, 1 << order);
> -
> -               /*
> -                * The page is isolated and accounted for.
> -                * Mark the codetag as empty to avoid accounting error
> -                * when the page is freed by unpoison_memory().
> -                */
> -               clear_page_tag_ref(page);
> -               return false;
> -       }
> -
>         VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(compound && compound_order(page) != order, page);
>  
>         /*
> @@ -1395,8 +1381,26 @@ static __always_inline bool __free_pages_prepare(struct page *page,
>                                 }
>                         }
>                         tail_page->flags.f &= ~PAGE_FLAGS_CHECK_AT_PREP;
> +                       hwpoisoned += PageHWPoison(tail_page);
>                 }
>         }
> +       hwpoisoned += PageHWPoison(page);
> +
> +       if (unlikely(hwpoisoned)) {
> +               /* Do not let hwpoison pages hit pcplists/buddy */
> +               reset_page_owner(page, order);
> +               page_table_check_free(page, order);
> +               pgalloc_tag_sub(page, 1 << order);
> +
> +               /*
> +                * The page is isolated and accounted for.
> +                * Mark the codetag as empty to avoid accounting error
> +                * when the page is freed by unpoison_memory().
> +                */
> +               clear_page_tag_ref(page);
> +               return false;
> +       }
> +
>         if (folio_test_anon(folio)) {
>                 mod_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON, -1);
>                 folio->mapping = NULL;
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/Makefile b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/Makefile
> 
> 
> Of course, we could also fallback for order>0 to do some smart splitting.

I think the freeing part is relatively fine, as tackled by this series.

> Checking on allocation efficiently is indeed a bit more tricky. For compound
> pages prep_compound_page() will already walk all pages.

Yeah and non-compound high-order pages should just go away eventually, so I
wouldn't worry about making them slower now.
But it's tricky because prep_compound_page() happens later when we don't
expect anything to fail anymore, so it would take some refactoring.

> Having hwpoison logic to just sync with the buddy when setting hwpoison flags
> would be nicer.

I suggested that (soft-offline does it). There might be some downsides, but
I can't judge how much they would manifest in practice:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/CACw3F50nVECJ%2Bk4g%3DQVZ80yzi_awCOcUiCuB0CYcUfxND9-7Tw@mail.gmail.com/

> Then we could (maybe) have the rule that no hwpoisoned page can enter the buddy, and no
> page can become hwpoisoned while in the buddy. Consequently, no hwpoisoned page can
> leave the buddy (except weird races while allocating, but then it's just an allocated
> page).

I'd love if that approach was feasible, yeah.

> Maybe.
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-05  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-05 18:07 [PATCH v6 0/5] Only free healthy pages in high-order has_hwpoisoned folio Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-05 18:07 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] mm/page_alloc: introduce __free_prepared_contig_range() with fpi_t Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-17  7:17   ` Miaohe Lin
2026-07-22  9:38   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-25  3:54   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-07-05 18:07 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] mm/page_alloc: only free healthy pages in high-order has_hwpoisoned folio Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-17  7:19   ` Miaohe Lin
2026-07-22  9:40   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-05 18:07 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] mm/memory-failure: set has_hwpoisoned flags on dissolved HugeTLB folio Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-25  3:05   ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-05 18:07 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] mm/memory-failure: skip take_page_off_buddy after dissolving HWPoison HugeTLB page Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-05 18:07 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] selftests/mm: add hard memory failure anonymous HugeTLB test Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-25  3:05   ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-05 18:50 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Only free healthy pages in high-order has_hwpoisoned folio Andrew Morton
2026-07-06  9:03   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-25  3:06   ` Jiaqi Yan
     [not found] ` <85cb7ea8-8116-4092-8310-69b61eb8602c@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <ee6bcc74-0846-43f2-bcca-b1bedff74351@oracle.com>
2026-07-22  8:27     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-22  9:03       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-25  6:00         ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-25  6:52       ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-07-27 14:20       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-27 18:20         ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-07-28 17:18         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-08-04 19:51           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-05  8:58             ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-08-05  9:09               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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