From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] mm/mseal: move madvise() logic to mm/madvise.c
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 16:18:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c57a0048-17dd-445b-8d92-4c8cc6f47d17@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0925c64b-c721-4dc5-913a-c43a94dc64a3@redhat.com>
On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 05:03:03PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > or sth like that would surely clean that up further.
> >
> > Well, I plan to make this not a thing soon so I'd rather not.
> >
> > The intent is to make _all_ VMA flags work on 32-bit kernels. I have done some
> > preparatory work and next cycle intend to do more on this.
> >
> > So I'd rather avoid any config changes on this until I've given this a shot.
>
> Sure, if that is in sight.
Yes :)
> > > > + * only do so via an appropriate madvise() call.
> > > > + */
> > > > +static bool can_madvise_modify(struct madvise_behavior *madv_behavior)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct vm_area_struct *vma = madv_behavior->vma;
> > > > +
> > > > + /* If the operation won't discard, we're good. */
> > > > + if (!is_discard(madv_behavior->behavior))
> > > > + return true;
> > >
> > >
> > > Conceptually, I would do this first and then handle all the discard cases /
> > > exceptions.
> >
> > Hm I'm confused :P we do do this first? I think the idea with this is we can
> > very cheaply ignore any MADV_ that isn't applicable.
> >
> > Did you mean to put this comment under line below?
> >
> > I mean it's not exactly a perf hotspot so don't mind moving them around.
>
> I was thinking of this (start with sealed, then go into details about
> discards):
>
> /* If the VMA isn't sealed, we're all good. */
> if (can_modify_vma(vma))
> return true;
>
> /* In a sealed VMA, we only care about discard operations. */
> if (!is_discard(madv_behavior->behavior))
> return true;
>
> /* But discards of file-backed mappings are fine. */
> if (!vma_is_anonymous(vma))
> return true;
Right yeah.
>
> ...
>
>
> But now I wonder, why is it okay to discard anon pages in a MAP_PRIVATE file
> mapping?
I'm duplicating existing logic here (well updating from the vma->vm_file check
and a seemingly pointless !vma->vm_file && vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED check), but
this is a good point...
For the purposes of the refactoring I guess best to keep the logic ostensibly
the same given the 'no functional change intended', but we do need to fix this
yes.
That change would probably be better as a follow-up with a test change added
too.
But I agree this is an oversight here afaict.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-14 15:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-14 13:00 [PATCH 0/5] mseal cleanups Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 13:00 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm/mseal: always define VM_SEALED Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 14:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 15:20 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-14 15:32 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-14 13:00 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/mseal: move madvise() logic to mm/madvise.c Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 14:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 14:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 15:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-07-14 15:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 15:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 15:31 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-14 15:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 15:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 16:01 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:18 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-14 15:33 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-14 13:00 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm/mseal: small cleanups Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 14:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 15:23 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-14 15:33 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-14 13:00 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm/mseal: separate out and simplify VMA gap check Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 14:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 15:17 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-14 15:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 15:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:40 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-14 15:35 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-14 15:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:43 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-14 15:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 13:00 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm/mseal: rework mseal apply logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-14 15:26 ` Pedro Falcato
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