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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Jan Kara' <jack@suse.cz>, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>, "cl@linux.com" <cl@linux.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"shakeelb@google.com" <shakeelb@google.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/2] execve scalability issues, part 1
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 10:49:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5b9a025165a4c93aa10b462a40641dc@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230823094915.ggv3spzevgyoov6i@quack3>

From: Jan Kara
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 10:49 AM
....
> > --- a/include/linux/mm_types.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> > @@ -737,7 +737,11 @@ struct mm_struct {
> >
> >                 unsigned long saved_auxv[AT_VECTOR_SIZE]; /* for
> > /proc/PID/auxv */
> >
> > -               struct percpu_counter rss_stat[NR_MM_COUNTERS];
> > +               union {
> > +                       struct percpu_counter rss_stat[NR_MM_COUNTERS];
> > +                       u64 *rss_stat_single;
> > +               };
> > +               bool    magic_flag_stuffed_elsewhere;

I wouldn't use a union to save a pointer - it is asking for trouble.

> >
> >                 struct linux_binfmt *binfmt;
> >
> >
> > Then for single-threaded case an area is allocated for NR_MM_COUNTERS
> > countes * 2 -- first set updated without any synchro by current
> > thread. Second set only to be modified by others and protected with
> > mm->arg_lock. The lock protects remote access to the union to begin
> > with.
> 
> arg_lock seems a bit like a hack. How is it related to rss_stat? The scheme
> with two counters is clever but I'm not 100% convinced the complexity is
> really worth it. I'm not sure the overhead of always using an atomic
> counter would really be measurable as atomic counter ops in local CPU cache
> tend to be cheap. Did you try to measure the difference?

A separate lock is worse than atomics.
(Although some 32bit arch may have issues with 64bit atomics.)

I think you'll be surprised just how slow atomic ops are.
Even when present in the local cache.
(Probably because any other copies have to be invalidated.)

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-23 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-21 20:28 [PATCH 0/2] execve scalability issues, part 1 Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-21 20:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] pcpcntr: add group allocation/free Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-22 13:37   ` Vegard Nossum
2023-08-22 14:06     ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-22 17:02   ` Dennis Zhou
2023-08-21 20:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] fork: group allocation of per-cpu counters for mm struct Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-21 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-21 20:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] execve scalability issues, part 1 Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-21 20:44   ` [PATCH 1/7] mm: Make folios_put() the basis of release_pages() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-21 20:44     ` [PATCH 2/7] mm: Convert free_unref_page_list() to use folios Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-21 20:44     ` [PATCH 3/7] mm: Add free_unref_folios() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-21 20:44     ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: Use folios_put() in __folio_batch_release() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-21 20:44     ` [PATCH 5/7] memcg: Add mem_cgroup_uncharge_batch() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-21 20:44     ` [PATCH 6/7] mm: Remove use of folio list from folios_put() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-21 20:44     ` [PATCH 7/7] mm: Use free_unref_folios() in put_pages_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-21 21:07 ` [PATCH 0/2] execve scalability issues, part 1 Dennis Zhou
2023-08-21 21:39   ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-21 22:29     ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-22  9:51       ` Jan Kara
2023-08-22 14:24         ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-23  9:49           ` Jan Kara
2023-08-23 10:49             ` David Laight [this message]
2023-08-23 12:01               ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-23 12:13             ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-23 15:47               ` Jan Kara
2023-08-23 16:10                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-23 16:41                   ` Jan Kara
2023-08-23 17:12                     ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-23 20:27             ` Dennis Zhou
2023-08-24  9:19               ` Jan Kara
2023-08-26 18:33 ` Mateusz Guzik

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