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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>, Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	joel.granados@kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: Avoid costly high-order page allocations when reading proc files
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:25:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6823186-9267-418c-a676-390be9d4524d@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbBSvMuZnKF_vy3kGGNOCg5N2CgomLhxMxjn8RNwMTrw7A@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/2/25 10:42, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 12:15 PM Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 07:01:04AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On April 1, 2025 12:30:46 AM PDT, Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >While investigating a kcompactd 100% CPU utilization issue in production, I
>> > >observed frequent costly high-order (order-6) page allocations triggered by
>> > >proc file reads from monitoring tools. This can be reproduced with a simple
>> > >test case:
>> > >
>> > >  fd = open(PROC_FILE, O_RDONLY);
>> > >  size = read(fd, buff, 256KB);
>> > >  close(fd);
>> > >
>> > >Although we should modify the monitoring tools to use smaller buffer sizes,
>> > >we should also enhance the kernel to prevent these expensive high-order
>> > >allocations.
>> > >
>> > >Signed-off-by: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
>> > >Cc: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
>> > >---
>> > > fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c | 10 +++++++++-
>> > > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> > >
>> > >diff --git a/fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c b/fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c
>> > >index cc9d74a06ff0..c53ba733bda5 100644
>> > >--- a/fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c
>> > >+++ b/fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c
>> > >@@ -581,7 +581,15 @@ static ssize_t proc_sys_call_handler(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *iter,
>> > >     error = -ENOMEM;
>> > >     if (count >= KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE)
>> > >             goto out;
>> > >-    kbuf = kvzalloc(count + 1, GFP_KERNEL);
>> > >+
>> > >+    /*
>> > >+     * Use vmalloc if the count is too large to avoid costly high-order page
>> > >+     * allocations.
>> > >+     */
>> > >+    if (count < (PAGE_SIZE << PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER))
>> > >+            kbuf = kvzalloc(count + 1, GFP_KERNEL);
>> >
>> > Why not move this check into kvmalloc family?
>>
>> Hmm should this check really be in kvmalloc family?
> 
> Modifying the existing kvmalloc functions risks performance regressions.
> Could we instead introduce a new variant like vkmalloc() (favoring
> vmalloc over kmalloc) or kvmalloc_costless()?

We have gfp flags and kmalloc_gfp_adjust() to moderate how aggressive
kmalloc() is before the vmalloc() fallback. It does e.g.:

                if (!(flags & __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL))
                        flags |= __GFP_NORETRY;

However if your problem is kcompactd utilization then the kmalloc() attempt
would have to avoid ___GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM to avoid waking up kswapd and then
kcompactd. Should we remove the flag for costly orders? Dunno. Ideally the
deferred compaction mechanism would limit the issue in the first place.

The ad-hoc fixing up of a particular place (/proc files reading) or creating
a new vkmalloc() and then spreading its use as you see other places
triggering the issue seems quite suboptimal to me.

>>
>> I don't think users would expect kvmalloc() to implictly decide on using
>> vmalloc() without trying kmalloc() first, just because it's a high-order
>> allocation.
>>
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250401073046.51121-1-laoar.shao@gmail.com>
2025-04-01 14:01 ` [PATCH] proc: Avoid costly high-order page allocations when reading proc files Kees Cook
2025-04-01 14:50   ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-02  4:15   ` Harry Yoo
2025-04-02  8:42     ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-02  9:25       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-04-02 12:17         ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-02 18:25         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-02 11:32       ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 12:24         ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-02 17:24           ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-02 18:30             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-02 22:38             ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 21:16           ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 23:10             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03  1:22               ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-03  3:32                 ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-03  5:05                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03  7:20                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-03  4:37           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03  7:22             ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-03  7:43               ` [PATCH] mm: kvmalloc: make kmalloc fast path real fast path Michal Hocko
2025-04-03  8:24                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-03  8:59                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-03 16:21                 ` Kees Cook
2025-04-03 19:49                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-04 15:33                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-04-03 18:30                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03 19:51                 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09  1:10                   ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-04 18:42                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-09  7:35                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09  9:11                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-09 12:20                       ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09 12:23                         ` Vlastimil Babka

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