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From: Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, <oe-lkp@lists.linux.dev>,
	<lkp@intel.com>,
	"Linux Memory Management List" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	<feng.tang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-next:master] [mm] 1111d46b5c: stress-ng.pthread.ops_per_sec -84.3% regression
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:02:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c739da04-9ea7-49c5-80b0-d9117f2c8f44@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1974dc2-0e25-4075-a9ba-5e1face6c0cd@intel.com>


>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/lattera/glibc/blob/master/nptl/allocatestack.c#L384
>>>> https://github.com/lattera/glibc/blob/master/nptl/pthread_create.c#L576
>>>
>>> It explains the problem. The madvise() does have some extra overhead
>>> for handling THP (splitting pmd, deferred split queue, etc).
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another thing is whether it's worthy to make stack use THP? It may be
>>>> useful for some apps which need large stack size?
>>>
>>> Kernel actually doesn't apply THP to stack (see
>>> vma_is_temporary_stack()). But kernel can't know whether the VMA is
>>> stack or not by checking VM_GROWSDOWN | VM_GROWSUP flags. So if glibc
>>> doesn't set the proper flags to tell kernel the area is stack, kernel
>>> just treats it as normal anonymous area. So glibc should set up stack
>>> properly IMHO.
>>
>> If I read the code correctly, nptl allocates stack by the below code:
>>
>> mem = __mmap (NULL, size, (guardsize == 0) ? prot : PROT_NONE,
>>                          MAP_PRIVATE | MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_STACK, -1, 0);
>>
>> See 
>> https://github.com/lattera/glibc/blob/master/nptl/allocatestack.c#L563
>>
>> The MAP_STACK is used, but it is a no-op on Linux. So the alternative
>> is to make MAP_STACK useful on Linux instead of changing glibc. But
>> the blast radius seems much wider.
> Yes. MAP_STACK is also mentioned in manpage of mmap. I did test to
> filter out of the MAP_STACK mapping based on this patch. The regression
> in stress-ng.pthread was gone. I suppose this is kind of safe because
> the madvise call is only applied to glibc allocated stack.

The patch I tested against stress-ng.pthread:

diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
index b78e83d351d2..1fd510aef82e 100644
--- a/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/mm/mmap.c
@@ -1829,7 +1829,8 @@ get_unmapped_area(struct file *file, unsigned long 
addr, unsigned long len,
                  */
                 pgoff = 0;
                 get_area = shmem_get_unmapped_area;
-       } else if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE)) {
+       } else if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE) &&
+                               !(flags & MAP_STACK)) {
                 /* Ensures that larger anonymous mappings are THP 
aligned. */
                 get_area = thp_get_unmapped_area;
         }


> 
> 
> But what I am not sure was whether it's worthy to do such kind of change
> as the regression only is seen obviously in micro-benchmark. No evidence
> showed the other regressionsin this report is related with madvise. At
> least from the perf statstics. Need to check more on stream/ramspeed. 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Yin, Fengwei
> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Yin, Fengwei


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-21  1:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-19 15:41 [linux-next:master] [mm] 1111d46b5c: stress-ng.pthread.ops_per_sec -84.3% regression kernel test robot
2023-12-20  5:27 ` Yang Shi
2023-12-20  8:29   ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-20 15:42     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2023-12-20 20:14       ` Yang Shi
2023-12-20 20:09     ` Yang Shi
2023-12-21  0:26       ` Yang Shi
2023-12-21  0:58         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-21  1:02           ` Yin Fengwei [this message]
2023-12-21  4:49           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-21  4:58             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-21 18:07             ` Yang Shi
2023-12-21 18:14               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-22  1:06                 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-12-22  2:23                   ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-21 13:39           ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-12-21 18:11             ` Yang Shi
2023-12-22  1:13               ` Yin, Fengwei
2024-01-04  1:32                 ` Yang Shi
2024-01-04  8:18                   ` Yin Fengwei
2024-01-04  8:39                     ` Oliver Sang
2024-01-05  9:29                       ` Oliver Sang
2024-01-05 14:52                         ` Yin, Fengwei
2024-01-05 18:49                         ` Yang Shi

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