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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>
Cc: "Daniel Sedlak" <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Neal Cardwell" <ncardwell@google.com>,
	"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Yosry Ahmed" <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Matyas Hurtik" <matyas.hurtik@cdn77.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 16:34:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <chb7znbpkbsf7pftnzdzkum63gt7cajft2lqiqqfx7zol3ftre@7cdg4czr5k4j> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAVpQUCCg-7kvzMeSSsKp3+Fu8pvvE5U-H5wkt=xMryNmnF5CA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 03:01:44PM -0700, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 2:54 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 12:20:25PM -0700, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> > > > > -                     WRITE_ONCE(memcg->socket_pressure, jiffies + HZ);
> > > > > +                     socket_pressure = jiffies + HZ;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +                     jiffies_diff = min(socket_pressure - READ_ONCE(memcg->socket_pressure), HZ);
> > > > > +                     memcg->socket_pressure_duration += jiffies_to_usecs(jiffies_diff);
> > > >
> > > > KCSAN will complain about this. I think we can use atomic_long_add() and
> > > > don't need the one with strict ordering.
> > >
> > > Assuming from atomic_ that vmpressure() could be called concurrently
> > > for the same memcg, should we protect socket_pressure and duration
> > > within the same lock instead of mixing WRITE/READ_ONCE() and
> > > atomic?  Otherwise jiffies_diff could be incorrect (the error is smaller
> > > than HZ though).
> > >
> >
> > Yeah good point. Also this field needs to be hierarchical. So, with lock
> > something like following is needed:
> >
> >         if (!spin_trylock(memcg->net_pressure_lock))
> >                 return;
> >
> >         socket_pressure = jiffies + HZ;
> >         diff = min(socket_pressure - READ_ONCE(memcg->socket_pressure), HZ);
> 
> READ_ONCE() should be unnecessary here.
> 
> >
> >         if (diff) {
> >                 WRITE_ONCE(memcg->socket_pressure, socket_pressure);
> >                 // mod_memcg_state(memcg, MEMCG_NET_PRESSURE, diff);
> >                 // OR
> >                 // while (memcg) {
> >                 //      memcg->sk_pressure_duration += diff;
> >                 //      memcg = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg);
> 
> The parents' sk_pressure_duration is not protected by the lock
> taken by trylock.  Maybe we need another global mutex if we want
> the hierarchy ?

We don't really need lock protection for sk_pressure_duration. The lock
is only giving us consistent value of diff. Once we have computed the
diff, we can add it to sk_pressure_duration of a memcg and all of its
ancestor without lock.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-06 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-05  6:44 [PATCH v4] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-05 15:54 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-05 23:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-06 19:20   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 21:54     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-06 22:01       ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 23:34         ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-08-06 23:40           ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 23:51             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-07 10:22           ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-07 20:52             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-14 16:27               ` Matyas Hurtik
2025-08-14 17:31                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-14 17:43                   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-07 10:42   ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-09 18:32 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-11 21:31   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-13 12:03   ` Michal Koutný
2025-08-13 18:03     ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-20 16:51       ` Matyas Hurtik
2025-08-20 19:03         ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-20 19:31           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-20 20:37           ` Matyas Hurtik
2025-08-20 21:34             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-21 18:44               ` Matyas Hurtik

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