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From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Mixed page compact code and (higher order) folios for filemap
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:03:05 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d46dbdc2-4a30-4ead-90f8-b4902cfa0bed@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZVYl8z5A1ucf/GYt@casper.infradead.org>



On 2023/11/17 00:53, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 04:00:40PM +1030, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>> On 2023/11/16 15:35, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 02:11:00PM +1030, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>>>> E.g. if I allocated a folio with order 2, attached some private data to
>>>> the folio, then call filemap_add_folio().
>>>>
>>>> Later some one called find_lock_page() and hit the 2nd page of that folio.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the regular IO is totally fine, but what would happen for the
>>>> page->private of that folio?
>>>> Would them all share the same value of the folio_attach_private()? Or
>>>> some different values?
>>>
>>> Well, there's no magic ...
>>>
>>> If you call find_lock_page(), you get back the precise page.  If you
>>> call page_folio() on that page, you get back the folio that you stored.
>>> If you then dereference folio->private, you get the pointer that you
>>> passed to folio_attach_private().
>>>
>>> If you dereference page->private, *that is a bug*.  You might get
>>> NULL, you might get garbage.  Just like dereferencing page->index or
>>> page->mapping on tail pages.  page_private() will also do the wrong thing
>>> (we could fix that to embed a call to page_folio() ... it hasn't been
>>> necessary before now, but if it'll help convert btrfs, then let's do it).
>>
>> That would be great. The biggest problem I'm hitting so far is the page
>> cache for metadata.
>>
>> We're using __GFP_NOFAIL for the current per-page allocation, but IIRC
>> __GFP_NOFAIL is ignored for higher order (>2 ?) folio allocation.
>> And we may want that per-page allocation as the last resort effort
>> allocation anyway.
>>
>> Thus I'm checking if there is something we can do here.
>>
>> But I guess we can always go folio_private() instead as a workaround for
>> now?
>
> I don't understand enough about what you're doing to offer useful
> advice.  Is this for bs>PS or is it arbitrary large folios for better
> performance?

The ultimate goal is to make nodesize (metadata block size) > PAGE_SIZE
case to go higher order folio by default, for better performance.

But use order 0 folios if we failed get higher order folios.

The current problem is the metadata allocation  here is always going
page based, and using page->private.

>  If the latter, you can always fall back to order-0 folios.
> If the former, well, we need to adjust a few things anyway to handle
> filesystems with a minimum order ...
>
> In general, you should be using folio_private().  page->private and
> page_private() will be removed eventually.

OK, that sounds good, we can do the cleanup first inside btrfs.

Thanks,
Qu
>
> The GFP_NOFAIL warning is:
>
>          WARN_ON_ONCE((gfp_flags & __GFP_NOFAIL) && (order > 1));
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-16 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-16  3:41 Mixed page compact code and (higher order) folios for filemap Qu Wenruo
2023-11-16  5:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-16  5:30   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-16 14:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-16 20:33       ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2023-11-16 22:40       ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-17 13:36         ` Matthew Wilcox

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