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From: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	kirill@shutemov.name, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	dave@stgolabs.net, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
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	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	npiggin@gmail.com, bsingharora@gmail.com,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/20] Speculative page faults
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:17:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6ceae3b-09c0-0642-ff56-c31d044e805e@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170925163443.260d6092160ec704e2b04653@linux-foundation.org>

Hi,

On 26/09/2017 01:34, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:27:43 -0700 Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Laurent Dufour
>> <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>> Despite the unprovable lockdep warning raised by Sergey, I didn't get any
>>> feedback on this series.
>>>
>>> Is there a chance to get it moved upstream ?
>>
>> what is the status ?
>> We're eagerly looking forward for this set to land,
>> since we have several use cases for tracing that
>> will build on top of this set as discussed at Plumbers.
> 
> There has been sadly little review and testing so far :(

I do agree and I could just encourage people to do so :/

> I'll be taking a close look at it all over the next couple of weeks.

Thanks Andrew for giving it a close look.

> One terribly important thing (especially for a patchset this large and
> intrusive) is the rationale for merging it: the justification, usually
> in the form of end-user benefit.

The benefit is only for multi-threaded processes. But even on *small* 
systems with 16 CPUs, there is a real benefit.

> 
> Laurent's [0/n] provides some nice-looking performance benefits for
> workloads which are chosen to show performance benefits(!) but, alas,
> no quantitative testing results for workloads which we may suspect will
> be harmed by the changes(?).

I did test with kernbench, involving gcc/ld which are not 
multi-threaded, AFAIK, and I didn't see any impact.
But if you know additional test I should give a try, please advise.

Regarding ebizzy, it was designed to simulate web server's activity, so 
I guess there will be improvements when running real web servers.

>  Even things as simple as impact upon
> single-threaded pagefault-intensive workloads and its effect upon
> CONFIG_SMP=n .text size?
> 
> If you have additional usecases then please, spell them out for us in
> full detail so we can better understand the benefits which this
> patchset provides.

The other use-case I'm aware of is on memory database, where performance 
improvements is really significant, as I mentioned in the header of my 
series.

Cheers,
Laurent.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-28 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-25 16:27 [PATCH v3 00/20] Speculative page faults Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-25 23:34 ` Andrew Morton
2017-09-28 12:17   ` Laurent Dufour [this message]
2017-09-28 12:29   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-09-28 20:38     ` Andrew Morton
2017-09-29 15:27       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-10-03  1:27         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-03  8:03           ` Laurent Dufour
2017-09-26  8:30 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-10-04  6:50 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-10-05 23:32   ` Alexei Starovoitov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-09-08 18:06 Laurent Dufour
2017-09-18  7:15 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-09-08 17:32 Laurent Dufour
2017-09-08 17:44 ` Laurent Dufour

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