From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, riel@surriel.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, yuzhao@google.com, baohua@kernel.org,
ryan.roberts@arm.com, rppt@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
cerasuolodomenico@gmail.com, corbet@lwn.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] mm: split underutilized THPs
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:35:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc00a32f-e4aa-4f48-b82a-176c9f615f3e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240730125346.1580150-1-usamaarif642@gmail.com>
On 30.07.24 14:45, Usama Arif wrote:
> The current upstream default policy for THP is always. However, Meta
> uses madvise in production as the current THP=always policy vastly
> overprovisions THPs in sparsely accessed memory areas, resulting in
> excessive memory pressure and premature OOM killing.
> Using madvise + relying on khugepaged has certain drawbacks over
> THP=always. Using madvise hints mean THPs aren't "transparent" and
> require userspace changes. Waiting for khugepaged to scan memory and
> collapse pages into THP can be slow and unpredictable in terms of performance
> (i.e. you dont know when the collapse will happen), while production
> environments require predictable performance. If there is enough memory
> available, its better for both performance and predictability to have
> a THP from fault time, i.e. THP=always rather than wait for khugepaged
> to collapse it, and deal with sparsely populated THPs when the system is
> running out of memory.
>
> This patch-series is an attempt to mitigate the issue of running out of
> memory when THP is always enabled. During runtime whenever a THP is being
> faulted in or collapsed by khugepaged, the THP is added to a list.
> Whenever memory reclaim happens, the kernel runs the deferred_split
> shrinker which goes through the list and checks if the THP was underutilized,
> i.e. how many of the base 4K pages of the entire THP were zero-filled.
> If this number goes above a certain threshold, the shrinker will attempt
> to split that THP. Then at remap time, the pages that were zero-filled are
> not remapped, hence saving memory. This method avoids the downside of
> wasting memory in areas where THP is sparsely filled when THP is always
> enabled, while still providing the upside THPs like reduced TLB misses without
> having to use madvise.
>
> Meta production workloads that were CPU bound (>99% CPU utilzation) were
> tested with THP shrinker. The results after 2 hours are as follows:
>
> | THP=madvise | THP=always | THP=always
> | | | + shrinker series
> | | | + max_ptes_none=409
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Performance improvement | - | +1.8% | +1.7%
> (over THP=madvise) | | |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Memory usage | 54.6G | 58.8G (+7.7%) | 55.9G (+2.4%)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> max_ptes_none=409 means that any THP that has more than 409 out of 512
> (80%) zero filled filled pages will be split.
>
> To test out the patches, the below commands without the shrinker will
> invoke OOM killer immediately and kill stress, but will not fail with
> the shrinker:
>
> echo 450 > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/max_ptes_none
> mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/test
> echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/test/cgroup.procs
> echo 20M > /sys/fs/cgroup/test/memory.max
> echo 0 > /sys/fs/cgroup/test/memory.swap.max
> # allocate twice memory.max for each stress worker and touch 40/512 of
> # each THP, i.e. vm-stride 50K.
> # With the shrinker, max_ptes_none of 470 and below won't invoke OOM
> # killer.
> # Without the shrinker, OOM killer is invoked immediately irrespective
> # of max_ptes_none value and kill stress.
> stress --vm 1 --vm-bytes 40M --vm-stride 50K
>
> Patches 1-2 add back helper functions that were previously removed
> to operate on page lists (needed by patch 3).
> Patch 3 is an optimization to free zapped tail pages rather than
> waiting for page reclaim or migration.
> Patch 4 is a prerequisite for THP shrinker to not remap zero-filled
> subpages when splitting THP.
> Patches 6 adds support for THP shrinker.
>
> (This patch-series restarts the work on having a THP shrinker in kernel
> originally done in
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/cover.1667454613.git.alexlzhu@fb.com/.
> The THP shrinker in this series is significantly different than the
> original one, hence its labelled v1 (although the prerequisite to not
> remap clean subpages is the same).)
As shared previously, there is one issue with uffd (even when currently
not active for a VMA!), where we must not zap present page table entries.
Something that is always possible (assuming no GUP pins of course,
which) is replacing the zero-filled subpages by shared zeropages.
Is that being done in this patch set already, or are we creating
pte_none() entries?
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-30 14:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-30 12:45 [PATCH 0/6] mm: split underutilized THPs Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/6] Revert "memcg: remove mem_cgroup_uncharge_list()" Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/6] Revert "mm: remove free_unref_page_list()" Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm: free zapped tail pages when splitting isolated thp Usama Arif
2024-07-30 15:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 19:02 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-05 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-06 9:58 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: don't remap unused subpages " Usama Arif
2024-07-30 18:07 ` Rik van Riel
2024-07-31 17:08 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: add selftests to split_huge_page() to verify unmap/zap of zero pages Usama Arif
2024-07-30 18:10 ` Rik van Riel
2024-08-01 4:45 ` kernel test robot
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: split underutilized THPs Usama Arif
2024-07-30 13:59 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-07-30 14:35 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-07-30 15:14 ` [PATCH 0/6] " Usama Arif
2024-07-30 15:19 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 16:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30 17:22 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 20:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-31 17:01 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-31 17:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-31 20:41 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-01 6:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 23:04 ` Usama Arif
[not found] ` <20240806172830.GD322282@cmpxchg.org>
2024-08-06 17:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-01 6:09 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-01 15:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 21:54 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-05 1:32 ` Rik van Riel
2024-08-05 19:51 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-01 16:22 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-01 16:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 19:10 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-04 23:32 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-04 23:23 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-06 11:18 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-06 17:38 ` Johannes Weiner
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