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From: Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>
To: Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov <snovitoll@gmail.com>
Cc: hca@linux.ibm.com, christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu,
	andreyknvl@gmail.com, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, zhangqing@loongson.cn,
	chenhuacai@loongson.cn, trishalfonso@google.com,
	davidgow@google.com, glider@google.com, dvyukov@google.com,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-um@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/9] kasan: introduce ARCH_DEFER_KASAN and unify static key across modes
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:51:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd25cb14-5df1-4b2c-bff7-0ca901dfd824@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACzwLxg=zC-82sY6f-z0VOnmbpN2E8tQxe7RyOnynpbJEFP+NA@mail.gmail.com>



On 8/6/25 4:15 PM, Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 6:35 PM Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/25 4:26 PM, Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov wrote:
>>> Introduce CONFIG_ARCH_DEFER_KASAN to identify architectures that need
>>> to defer KASAN initialization until shadow memory is properly set up,
>>> and unify the static key infrastructure across all KASAN modes.
>>>
>>> Some architectures (like PowerPC with radix MMU) need to set up their
>>> shadow memory mappings before KASAN can be safely enabled, while others
>>> (like s390, x86, arm) can enable KASAN much earlier or even from the
>>> beginning.
>>>
>>> Historically, the runtime static key kasan_flag_enabled existed only for
>>> CONFIG_KASAN_HW_TAGS mode. Generic and SW_TAGS modes either relied on
>>> architecture-specific kasan_arch_is_ready() implementations or evaluated
>>> KASAN checks unconditionally, leading to code duplication.
>>>
>>> Closes: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217049
>>> Signed-off-by: Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov <snovitoll@gmail.com>
>>> ---
>>> Changes in v4:
>>> - Fixed HW_TAGS static key functionality (was broken in v3)
>>
>> I don't think it fixed. Before you patch kasan_enabled() esentially
>> worked like this:
>>
>>  if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN_HW_TAGS))
>>         return static_branch_likely(&kasan_flag_enabled);
>>  else
>>         return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN);
>>
>> Now it's just IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN);
> 
> In v4 it is:
> 
>         #if defined(CONFIG_ARCH_DEFER_KASAN) || defined(CONFIG_KASAN_HW_TAGS)
>         static __always_inline bool kasan_shadow_initialized(void)
>         {
>                 return static_branch_likely(&kasan_flag_enabled);
>         }
>         #else
>         static __always_inline bool kasan_shadow_initialized(void)
>         {
>                 return kasan_enabled(); // which is IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN);
>         }
>         #endif
> 
> So for HW_TAGS, KASAN is enabled in kasan_init_hw_tags().

You are referring to  kasan_shadow_initialized(), but I was talking about kasan_enabled() specifically.
E.g. your patch changes behavior for kasan_init_slab_obj() which doesn't use kasan_shadow_initialized()
 (in the case of HW_TAGS=y && kasan_flag_enabled = false) :

static __always_inline void * __must_check kasan_init_slab_obj(
                                struct kmem_cache *cache, const void *object)
{
        if (kasan_enabled())
                return __kasan_init_slab_obj(cache, object);
        return (void *)object;
}



>>> +#if defined(CONFIG_ARCH_DEFER_KASAN) || defined(CONFIG_KASAN_HW_TAGS)
>>> +/*
>>> + * Global runtime flag for KASAN modes that need runtime control.
>>> + * Used by ARCH_DEFER_KASAN architectures and HW_TAGS mode.
>>> + */
>>>  DECLARE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(kasan_flag_enabled);
>>>
>>> -static __always_inline bool kasan_enabled(void)
>>> +/*
>>> + * Runtime control for shadow memory initialization or HW_TAGS mode.
>>> + * Uses static key for architectures that need deferred KASAN or HW_TAGS.
>>> + */
>>> +static __always_inline bool kasan_shadow_initialized(void)
>>
>> Don't rename it, just leave as is - kasan_enabled().
>> It's better name, shorter and you don't need to convert call sites, so
>> there is less chance of mistakes due to unchanged kasan_enabled() -> kasan_shadow_initialized().
> 
> I actually had the only check "kasan_enabled()" in v2, but went to
> double check approach in v3
> after this comment:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CA+fCnZcGyTECP15VMSPh+duLmxNe=ApHfOnbAY3NqtFHZvceZw@mail.gmail.com/

AFAIU the comment suggest that we need two checks/flags, one in kasan_enabled() which checks
whether kasan was enabled via cmdline (currently only for HW_TAGS)
 and one in kasan_arch_is_ready()(or kasan_shadow_initialized()) which checks if arch initialized KASAN.
And this not what v3/v4 does. v4 basically  have one check, just under different name. 

Separate checks might be needed if we have code paths that need 'kasan_arch_is_ready() && !kasan_enabled()'
and vise versa '!kasan_arch_is_ready() && kasan_enabled()'.

From the top of my head, I can't say if we have such cases.

> 
> Ok, we will have the **only** check kasan_enabled() then in
> kasan-enabled.h which
> 
>         #if defined(CONFIG_ARCH_DEFER_KASAN) || defined(CONFIG_KASAN_HW_TAGS)
>         static __always_inline bool kasan_enabled(void)
>         {
>                 return static_branch_likely(&kasan_flag_enabled);
>         }
>         #else
>         static inline bool kasan_enabled(void)
>         {
>                 return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN);
>         }
> 
> And will remove kasan_arch_is_ready (current kasan_shadow_initialized in v4).
> 
> So it is the single place to check if KASAN is enabled for all arch
> and internal KASAN code.
> Same behavior is in the current mainline code but only for HW_TAGS.
> 
> Is this correct?
> 

Yep, that's what I meant.

>>
>>
>>>  {
>>>       return static_branch_likely(&kasan_flag_enabled);
>>>  }
>>>
>>> -static inline bool kasan_hw_tags_enabled(void)
>>> +static inline void kasan_enable(void)
>>> +{
>>> +     static_branch_enable(&kasan_flag_enabled);
>>> +}
>>> +#else
>>> +/* For architectures that can enable KASAN early, use compile-time check. */
>>> +static __always_inline bool kasan_shadow_initialized(void)
>>>  {
>>>       return kasan_enabled();
>>>  }
>>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>>  void kasan_populate_early_vm_area_shadow(void *start, unsigned long size);
>>> -int kasan_populate_vmalloc(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size);
>>> -void kasan_release_vmalloc(unsigned long start, unsigned long end,
>>> +
>>> +int __kasan_populate_vmalloc(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size);
>>> +static inline int kasan_populate_vmalloc(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size)
>>> +{
>>> +     if (!kasan_shadow_initialized())
>>> +             return 0;
>>
>>
>> What's the point of moving these checks to header?
>> Leave it in C, it's easier to grep and navigate code this way.
> 
> Andrey Konovalov had comments [1] to avoid checks in C
> by moving them to headers under __wrappers.
> 
> : 1. Avoid spraying kasan_arch_is_ready() throughout the KASAN
> : implementation and move these checks into include/linux/kasan.h (and
> : add __wrappers when required).
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CA+fCnZcGyTECP15VMSPh+duLmxNe=ApHfOnbAY3NqtFHZvceZw@mail.gmail.com/
> 

I think Andrey K. meant cases when we have multiple implementations of one function for each mode.
In such case it makes sense to merge multiple kasan_arch_is_ready() checks into one in the header.
But in case like with kasan_populate_vmalloc() we have only one implementation so I don't see any
value in adding wrapper/moving to header. 

>>
>>
>>> +     return __kasan_populate_vmalloc(addr, size);
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +void __kasan_release_vmalloc(unsigned long start, unsigned long end,
>>>                          unsigned long free_region_start,
>>>                          unsigned long free_region_end,
>>>                          unsigned long flags);
>>> +static inline void kasan_release_vmalloc(unsigned long start,
>>> +                        unsigned long end,
>>> +                        unsigned long free_region_start,
>>> +                        unsigned long free_region_end,
>>> +                        unsigned long flags)
>>> +{
>>> +     if (kasan_shadow_initialized())
>>> +             __kasan_release_vmalloc(start, end, free_region_start,
>>> +                        free_region_end, flags);
>>> +}
>>>
>>
>> ...> @@ -250,7 +259,7 @@ static inline void poison_slab_object(struct kmem_cache *cache, void *object,
>>>  bool __kasan_slab_pre_free(struct kmem_cache *cache, void *object,
>>>                               unsigned long ip)
>>>  {
>>> -     if (!kasan_arch_is_ready() || is_kfence_address(object))
>>> +     if (is_kfence_address(object))
>>>               return false;
>>>       return check_slab_allocation(cache, object, ip);
>>>  }
>>> @@ -258,7 +267,7 @@ bool __kasan_slab_pre_free(struct kmem_cache *cache, void *object,
>>>  bool __kasan_slab_free(struct kmem_cache *cache, void *object, bool init,
>>>                      bool still_accessible)
>>>  {
>>> -     if (!kasan_arch_is_ready() || is_kfence_address(object))
>>> +     if (is_kfence_address(object))
>>>               return false;
>>>
>>>       poison_slab_object(cache, object, init, still_accessible);
>>> @@ -282,9 +291,6 @@ bool __kasan_slab_free(struct kmem_cache *cache, void *object, bool init,
>>>
>>>  static inline bool check_page_allocation(void *ptr, unsigned long ip)
>>>  {
>>> -     if (!kasan_arch_is_ready())
>>> -             return false;
>>> -
>>
>>
>> Well, you can't do this yet, because no arch using ARCH_DEFER_KASAN yet, so this breaks
>> bisectability.
>> Leave it, and remove with separate patch only when there are no users left.
> 
> Will do in v5 at the end of patch series.
> 
>>
>>>       if (ptr != page_address(virt_to_head_page(ptr))) {
>>>               kasan_report_invalid_free(ptr, ip, KASAN_REPORT_INVALID_FREE);
>>>               return true;
>>> @@ -511,7 +517,7 @@ bool __kasan_mempool_poison_object(void *ptr, unsigned long ip)
>>>               return true;
>>>       }
>>>
>>> -     if (is_kfence_address(ptr) || !kasan_arch_is_ready())
>>> +     if (is_kfence_address(ptr))
>>>               return true;
>>>
>>>       slab = folio_slab(folio);
>>
>>



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-06 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-05 14:26 [PATCH v4 0/9] kasan: unify kasan_arch_is_ready() and remove arch-specific implementations Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] kasan: introduce ARCH_DEFER_KASAN and unify static key across modes Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-06 13:34   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-08-06 14:15     ` Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-06 19:51       ` Andrey Ryabinin [this message]
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] kasan/powerpc: select ARCH_DEFER_KASAN and call kasan_init_generic Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] kasan/arm,arm64: call kasan_init_generic in kasan_init Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] kasan/xtensa: " Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] kasan/loongarch: select ARCH_DEFER_KASAN and call kasan_init_generic Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
     [not found]   ` <e15e1012-566f-45a7-81d5-fd504af780da@gmail.com>
2025-08-06  4:37     ` Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] kasan/um: " Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
     [not found]   ` <60895f3d-abe2-4fc3-afc3-176a188f06d4@gmail.com>
2025-08-06  4:35     ` Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-06 13:49       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] kasan/x86: call kasan_init_generic in kasan_init Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] kasan/s390: " Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-05 14:26 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] kasan/riscv: " Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2025-08-05 16:06   ` Alexandre Ghiti

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