From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
ljs@kernel.org, david@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev, jannh@google.com, aliceryhl@google.com,
arve@android.com, cmllamas@google.com, christian@brauner.io,
tkjos@android.com, dsahern@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] mm: Add RCU-based VMA lookup helper that waits for writers
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2026 17:39:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <de2bacba-c3d6-496b-86cb-0c0a98163a8d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260806200548.3124802-4-surenb@google.com>
On 8/6/26 22:05, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
>
> == Background ==
>
> There are basically two parallel ways to look up a VMA: the
> traditional way, which is protected by mmap_read_lock, and the RCU-based
> per-VMA lock way which is based on RCU and refcounts.
>
> == Problem ==
>
> The mmap_lock one is more straightforward to use but it has a big
> disadvantage in that it can not be mixed with page faults since those
> can take mmap_lock for read, which can deadlock when mixed with nested
> page faults and parallel writers.
> For example:
>
> mmap_read_lock(mm);
> // Another thread does mmap_write_lock().
> // New mmap_lock readers are blocked.
> vma = vma_lookup(mm, address);
> // This deadlocks on mmap_read_lock() if it faults:
> copy_from_user(address);
> mmap_read_unlock(mm);
>
> The per-VMA lock can be mixed with faults, but they can fail and need to
> be able to fall back to the traditional way.
>
> == Solution ==
>
> Add vma_start_read_unlocked() - a variant of the RCU-based lookup that
> waits for writers. This is basically the same as the existing RCU-based
> lookup, but on a failure to lock it temporarily takes mmap_lock for read
> and waits for writers to finish before locking the VMA, dropping the
> mmap_lock and returning the locked VMA. This has some advantages:
>
> 1. Callers do not need to have a fallback path for when they
> collide with writers.
> 2. It can be used in contexts where page faults can happen because
> it can take the mmap_lock for read but never *holds* it.
> 3. Its fast path does not require taking mmap_lock for read.
>
> Basically, when applied correctly, this approach results in faster
> *and* simpler code.
>
> While at it, fix the comments for vma_start_read_locked(),
> vma_start_read_locked_nested(), and uffd_lock_vma().
>
> Suggested-by: Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) <ljs@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
> Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>
> Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
> Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> Cc: Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@android.com>
> Cc: Todd Kjos <tkjos@android.com>
> Cc: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
> Cc: Carlos Llamas <cmllamas@google.com>
> Cc: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
> Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
> Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-07 15:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-06 20:05 [PATCH v4 0/5] mm: Unconditional per-VMA locks and cleanups Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm: Make per-VMA locks available universally Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-07 15:37 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-08-08 1:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-08 6:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] binder: Make shrinker rely solely on per-VMA lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-07 14:26 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-08-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] mm: Add RCU-based VMA lookup helper that waits for writers Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-07 15:39 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-08-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] binder: Remove mmap_lock fallback Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] tcp: Remove mmap_lock fallback path Suren Baghdasaryan
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