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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	Tangquan Zheng <zhengtangquan@oppo.com>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Zi Li <zi.li@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm: use per_vma lock for MADV_DONTNEED
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:18:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <deb5ecd0-d57b-4a04-85b7-e6d11207aa8f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4xVH6DT_8t=oDvHCJ-iDwrpms6FhMn9UdKWMwDRv+hunA@mail.gmail.com>

On 18.06.25 11:52, Barry Song wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 10:25 AM Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Crazy, the per-VMA lock for madvise is an absolute game-changer ;)
>>
>> On 2025/6/17 21:38, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> [...]
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 08, 2025 at 10:01:50AM +1200, Barry Song wrote:
>>>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
>>>>
>>>> Certain madvise operations, especially MADV_DONTNEED, occur far more
>>>> frequently than other madvise options, particularly in native and Java
>>>> heaps for dynamic memory management.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, the mmap_lock is always held during these operations, even when
>>>> unnecessary. This causes lock contention and can lead to severe priority
>>>> inversion, where low-priority threads—such as Android's HeapTaskDaemon—
>>>> hold the lock and block higher-priority threads.
>>>>
>>>> This patch enables the use of per-VMA locks when the advised range lies
>>>> entirely within a single VMA, avoiding the need for full VMA traversal. In
>>>> practice, userspace heaps rarely issue MADV_DONTNEED across multiple VMAs.
>>>>
>>>> Tangquan’s testing shows that over 99.5% of memory reclaimed by Android
>>>> benefits from this per-VMA lock optimization. After extended runtime,
>>>> 217,735 madvise calls from HeapTaskDaemon used the per-VMA path, while
>>>> only 1,231 fell back to mmap_lock.
>>>>
>>>> To simplify handling, the implementation falls back to the standard
>>>> mmap_lock if userfaultfd is enabled on the VMA, avoiding the complexity of
>>>> userfaultfd_remove().
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks to Lorenzo's work[1] on:
>>>> "Refactor the madvise() code to retain state about the locking mode
>>>> utilised for traversing VMAs.
>>>>
>>>> Then use this mechanism to permit VMA locking to be done later in the
>>>> madvise() logic and also to allow altering of the locking mode to permit
>>>> falling back to an mmap read lock if required."
>>>>
>>>> One important point, as pointed out by Jann[2], is that
>>>> untagged_addr_remote() requires holding mmap_lock. This is because
>>>> address tagging on x86 and RISC-V is quite complex.
>>>>
>>>> Until untagged_addr_remote() becomes atomic—which seems unlikely in
>>>> the near future—we cannot support per-VMA locks for remote processes.
>>>> So for now, only local processes are supported.
>>
>> Just to put some numbers on it, I ran a micro-benchmark with 100
>> parallel threads, where each thread calls madvise() on its own 1GiB
>> chunk of 64KiB mTHP-backed memory. The performance gain is huge:
>>
>> 1) MADV_DONTNEED saw its average time drop from 0.0508s to 0.0270s (~47%
>> faster)
>> 2) MADV_FREE     saw its average time drop from 0.3078s to 0.1095s (~64%
>> faster)
> 
> Thanks for the report, Lance. I assume your micro-benchmark includes some
> explicit or implicit operations that may require mmap_write_lock().
> As  mmap_read_lock() only waits for writers and does not block other
> mmap_read_lock() calls.

The number rather indicate that one test was run with (m)THPs enabled 
and the other not? Just a thought. The locking overhead from my 
experience is not that significant.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-18 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-07 22:01 [PATCH v4] mm: use per_vma lock for MADV_DONTNEED Barry Song
2025-06-09  7:21 ` Qi Zheng
2025-06-17 13:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-18  2:25   ` Lance Yang
2025-06-18  9:52     ` Barry Song
2025-06-18 10:18       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-18 10:30         ` Barry Song
2025-06-18 10:32           ` Barry Song
2025-06-18 13:05         ` Lance Yang
2025-06-18 13:13           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-18 10:11   ` Barry Song
2025-06-18 10:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-18 10:36       ` Barry Song
2025-08-04  0:58 ` Lai, Yi
2025-08-04  7:19   ` Barry Song
2025-08-04  7:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04  8:26     ` Qi Zheng
2025-08-04  8:30       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04  8:49         ` Lai, Yi
2025-08-04  9:15           ` Barry Song
2025-08-04  9:35             ` Qi Zheng
2025-08-04  9:52               ` Qi Zheng
2025-08-04 10:04                 ` Barry Song
2025-08-04 21:48     ` Barry Song
2025-08-05  2:52       ` Lai, Yi
2025-08-04  8:19   ` Barry Song

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