From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>,
"Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@pankajraghav.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
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Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
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"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
mcgrof@kernel.org, gost.dev@samsung.com, hch@lst.de,
Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] add persistent huge zero folio support
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:49:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfb01243-7251-444c-8ac6-d76666742aa9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hzk7e52sfhfqvo5bh7btthtyyo2tf4rwe24jxtp3fqd62vxo7k@cylwrbxqj47b>
On 11.08.25 11:43, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 10:41:08AM +0200, Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) wrote:
>> From: Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
>>
>> Many places in the kernel need to zero out larger chunks, but the
>> maximum segment we can zero out at a time by ZERO_PAGE is limited by
>> PAGE_SIZE.
>>
>> This concern was raised during the review of adding Large Block Size support
>> to XFS[2][3].
>>
>> This is especially annoying in block devices and filesystems where
>> multiple ZERO_PAGEs are attached to the bio in different bvecs. With multipage
>> bvec support in block layer, it is much more efficient to send out
>> larger zero pages as a part of single bvec.
>>
>> Some examples of places in the kernel where this could be useful:
>> - blkdev_issue_zero_pages()
>> - iomap_dio_zero()
>> - vmalloc.c:zero_iter()
>> - rxperf_process_call()
>> - fscrypt_zeroout_range_inline_crypt()
>> - bch2_checksum_update()
>> ...
>>
>> Usually huge_zero_folio is allocated on demand, and it will be
>> deallocated by the shrinker if there are no users of it left. At the moment,
>> huge_zero_folio infrastructure refcount is tied to the process lifetime
>> that created it. This might not work for bio layer as the completions
>> can be async and the process that created the huge_zero_folio might no
>> longer be alive. And, one of the main point that came during discussion
>> is to have something bigger than zero page as a drop-in replacement.
>>
>> Add a config option PERSISTENT_HUGE_ZERO_FOLIO that will always allocate
>> the huge_zero_folio, and disable the shrinker so that huge_zero_folio is
>> never freed.
>> This makes using the huge_zero_folio without having to pass any mm struct and does
>> not tie the lifetime of the zero folio to anything, making it a drop-in
>> replacement for ZERO_PAGE.
>>
>> I have converted blkdev_issue_zero_pages() as an example as a part of
>> this series. I also noticed close to 4% performance improvement just by
>> replacing ZERO_PAGE with persistent huge_zero_folio.
>>
>> I will send patches to individual subsystems using the huge_zero_folio
>> once this gets upstreamed.
>>
>> Looking forward to some feedback.
>
> Why does it need to be compile-time? Maybe whoever needs huge zero page
> would just call get_huge_zero_page()/folio() on initialization to get it
> pinned?
That's what v2 did, and this way here is cleaner.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-11 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-11 8:41 [PATCH v3 0/5] add persistent huge zero folio support Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11 8:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] mm: rename huge_zero_page to huge_zero_folio Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11 8:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] mm: rename MMF_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE to MMF_HUGE_ZERO_FOLIO Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11 8:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] mm: add persistent huge zero folio Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11 8:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] mm: add largest_zero_folio() routine Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11 8:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] block: use largest_zero_folio in __blkdev_issue_zero_pages() Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11 9:35 ` Pankaj Raghav
2025-08-11 9:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 9:43 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] add persistent huge zero folio support Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-11 9:49 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-11 9:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 10:07 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-11 10:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 10:17 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-11 10:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 10:36 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-11 10:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 10:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-18 6:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-11 10:19 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11 10:12 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-12 3:52 ` Ritesh Harjani
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