From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev, baohua@kernel.org,
axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
peiyang_he@smail.nju.edu.cn, mhocko@kernel.org,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, ljs@kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: mglru: fix stale batch updates after memcg reparenting
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2026 13:29:57 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfe5d773-2992-448b-a6cb-ef633714a08f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7946da94-dc1d-4cf2-986e-466c378665b6@linux.dev>
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On 6/23/26 6:14 PM, Qi Zheng wrote:
> Hi Harry,
>
> On 6/23/26 4:18 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
>> On 6/23/26 4:16 PM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>> Hi Harry,
>>
>> Hi Qi!
>>
>>> On 6/23/26 2:17 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>> On 6/23/26 11:42 AM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>> From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> The mglru page table walker batches per-generation size deltas in
>>>>> walk->nr_pages while walking page tables without holding the lruvec
>>>>> lock.
>>>>> The reset_batch_size() later folds those deltas into walk->lruvec
>>>>> under
>>>>> the lruvec lock.
>>>>
>>>> Ouch.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC the user-visible impact of underestimated nr_pages in MGLRU
>>>> was premature OOMs because MGLRU does not try to reclaim memory when
>>>> nr_pages reaches zero, but there are still more pages.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps worth mentioning in the changelog?
>>>
>>> Maybe this should be placed before "To fix it...".
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>>> The page table walker can run concurrently with the memcg reparenting
>>>>> path
>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> CPU0 CPU1
>>>>> ==== ====
>>>>>
>>>>> walk_mm
>>>>> --> walk_page_range
>>>>> --> update_batch_size
>>>>> --> walk->nr_pages += delta
>>>>>
>>>>> mem_cgroup_css_offline
>>>>> --> memcg_reparent_objcgs
>>>>> --> lock lruvec
>>>>> lru_gen_reparent_memcg
>>>>> --> reparent child folios to
>>>>> parent
>>>>> unlock lruvec
>>>>>
>>>>> lock lruvec
>>>>> reset_batch_size
>>>>> --> child lrugen->nr_pages += delta
>>>>
>>>> The problem here is that, while grabbing a reference to memcg
>>>> (via mem_cgroup_iter(), for example) makes sure that the memcg is not
>>>> freed, it does not prevent offlining happening, and reset_batch_size()
>>>> doesn't check whether the lruvec has been reparented, or the lruvec
>>>> is going to be reparented.
>>>>
>>>>> This will trigger the following warning in lru_gen_exit_memcg():
>>>>>
>>>>> VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(memchr_inv(lruvec->lrugen.nr_pages, 0,
>>>>> sizeof(lruvec->lrugen.nr_pages)));
>>>>>
>>>>> To fix it, add lrugen->reparented to remember the new owner of a
>>>>> reparented lruvec, and make reset_batch_size() charge pending
>>>>> deltas to
>>>>> that owner.
>>>>
>>>> Could you please explain why it is unavoidable to introduce the new
>>>> field and why checking whether the cgroup is dying (and charging deltas
>>>> to non-dying parent) doesn't work?
>>>
>>> Peiyang tried doing this [1], but it doesn't work because
>>> ss->css_offline() is called before clearing the CSS_ONLINE flag.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>> I also considered using mem_cgroup_tryget_online(), but that only
>>> prevent
>>> the memcg from being freed. It's doesn't prevent the offlining.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> I think checking CSS_DYING under RCU and grabbing the lruvec
>> of the first non-dying memcg should work (this pattern is already
>> used where we use RCU to guarantee memcgs are not freed).
>>
>> If we do not observe CSS_DYING flag, it is safe to charge deltas
>> to the lruvec because RCU guarantees that reparenting cannot happen
>> under us.
>>
>> If we do observe CSS_DYING, we can walk up the hierarchy and charge
>> deltas to the first non-dying memcg.
>
> Checking CSS_DYING looks feasible, but the rcu lock alone cannot prevent
> reparenting. We should recheck CSS_DYING after acquiring the lruvec
> lock, otherwise we might run into the following race:
Haha, actually, I was thinking of checking CSS_DYING under both RCU and
lruvec lock. (because that's the pattern)
> CPU0 reset_batch_size CPU1 memcg teardown
> ===================== ==================
>
> read !CSS_DYING
>
> set CSS_DYING
Oh, I thought the entire critical section is covered by RCU.
(I see lock_batch_lruvec() you suggested below doesn't do that)
Isn't RCU enough to prevent reparenting because RCU guarantees that
all readers who read !CSS_DYING complete before reparenting?
Now I'm confused. Is it strictly required to check CSS_DYING under
lruvec lock? CSS_DYING is updated outside the lruvec lock anyway?
> memcg_reparent_objcgs()
> lock child lruvec
> move child to parent
> zero child nr_pages
> unlock child lruvec
>
> lock child lruvec
> charge stale delta to child
>
> So it seems lock_batch_lruvec() should be implemented like this:
>
> static struct lruvec *lock_batch_lruvec(struct lruvec *lruvec)
> {
> struct mem_cgroup *memcg = lruvec_memcg(lruvec);
>
> rcu_read_lock();
> retry:
> while (memcg && css_is_dying(&memcg->css))
> memcg = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg);
Isn't this loop unnecessary as spin_lock_irq() -> check CSS_DYING ->
goto retry does the same thing? (of course, we need to fetch the parent
memcg before retry then...)
> lruvec = mem_cgroup_lruvec(memcg, pgdat);
> spin_lock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
> if (memcg && unlikely(css_is_dying(&memcg->css))) {
> spin_unlock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
> goto retry;
> }
>
> rcu_read_unlock();
>
> return lruvec;
> }
Thanks!
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-24 4:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-23 2:42 [PATCH v2] mm: mglru: fix stale batch updates after memcg reparenting Qi Zheng
2026-06-23 2:56 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-23 4:03 ` Baolin Wang
2026-06-23 6:17 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-23 7:16 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-23 8:18 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-23 9:14 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-24 4:29 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-06-24 7:11 ` Qi Zheng
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