From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <davidhildenbrandkernel@gmail.com>,
"Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
zokeefe@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) fails with EINVAL on dirty file-backed text pages
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 18:09:29 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e21ea030-b05f-42e6-b479-b3e0789b9d97@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0e616478-96d4-41e9-b6c1-fa641c36fba3@gmail.com>
On 2025/11/7 17:12, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>
>>
>> 5. Yes, I'm calling madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) on the text portion of the
>> executable, using the address
>> range obtained from /proc/self/maps. IIUC, this should benefit
>> applications by reducing ITLB pressure.
>>
>> I agree with the suggestions to either Return EAGAIN instead of EINVAL
>> or At minimum, document the
>> EINVAL return for dirty pages. I'm happy to work on a patch.
>
> Of course, we could detect that we are in MADV_COLLAPSE and simply
> writeback ourselves. After all,
> user space asked for a collapse, and it's not khugepaged that will
> simple revisit it later.
>
> I did something similar in
>
> commit ab73b29efd36f8916c6cc9954e912c4723c9a1b0
> Author: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Date: Fri May 16 14:39:46 2025 +0200
>
> s390/uv: Improve splitting of large folios that cannot be split
> while dirty
> Currently, starting a PV VM on an iomap-based filesystem with large
> folio support, such as XFS, will not work. We'll be stuck in
> unpack_one()->gmap_make_secure(), because we can't seem to make
> progress
> splitting the large folio.
>
> Where I effectively use filemap_write_and_wait_range().
>
> It could be used early to writeback the whole range to collapse once,
> possibly.
Exactly!
Since MADV_COLLAPSE is a best-effort thing, having the kernel use
something like filemap_write_and_wait_range() to writeback the pages
before collapsing is likely what users would expect.
Anyway, they just want to get a THP, whether the pages are dirty or
clean :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-07 10:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-06 12:16 madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) fails with EINVAL on dirty file-backed text pages Garg, Shivank
2025-11-06 12:55 ` Lance Yang
2025-11-06 13:03 ` Nico Pache
2025-11-06 16:32 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-06 16:55 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-11-06 17:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 21:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-07 8:51 ` Garg, Shivank
2025-11-07 9:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-07 10:09 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-11-07 10:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-07 12:46 ` Garg, Shivank
2025-11-07 10:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-07 12:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 20:32 ` Yang Shi
2025-11-07 9:44 ` Garg, Shivank
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