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From: Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<willy@infradead.org>, <david@redhat.com>, <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	<shy828301@gmail.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] mm: mlock: update mlock_pte_range to handle large folio
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:28:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3044d46-3b38-dc2e-b8d2-8ec1033f85e7@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkYWH8umBFgmxPmeOkRF=pauVW=MvyyN+z17XMHN+q8JKg@mail.gmail.com>



On 7/19/23 10:22, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 7:10 PM Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/23 10:00, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 6:57 PM Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/19/23 09:52, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 6:32 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:47 PM Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/19/23 06:48, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 6:58 PM Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/17/23 08:35, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 6:00 PM Yin, Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/15/2023 2:06 PM, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a problem here that I didn't have the time to elaborate: we
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't mlock() a folio that is within the range but not fully mapped
>>>>>>>>>>>> because this folio can be on the deferred split queue. When the split
>>>>>>>>>>>> happens, those unmapped folios (not mapped by this vma but are mapped
>>>>>>>>>>>> into other vmas) will be stranded on the unevictable lru.
>>>>>>>>>>> This should be fine unless I missed something. During large folio split,
>>>>>>>>>>> the unmap_folio() will be migrate(anon)/unmap(file) folio. Folio will be
>>>>>>>>>>> munlocked in unmap_folio(). So the head/tail pages will be evictable always.
>>>>>>>>>> It's close but not entirely accurate: munlock can fail on isolated folios.
>>>>>>>>> Yes. The munlock just clear PG_mlocked bit but with PG_unevictable left.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could this also happen against normal 4K page? I mean when user try to munlock
>>>>>>>>> a normal 4K page and this 4K page is isolated. So it become unevictable page?
>>>>>>>> Looks like it can be possible. If cpu 1 is in __munlock_folio() and
>>>>>>>> cpu 2 is isolating the folio for any purpose:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cpu1                                        cpu2
>>>>>>>>                                                 isolate folio
>>>>>>>> folio_test_clear_lru() // 0
>>>>>>>>                                                 putback folio // add
>>>>>>>> to unevictable list
>>>>>>>> folio_test_clear_mlocked()
>>>>>>> Yes. Yu showed this sequence to me in another email. I thought the putback_lru()
>>>>>>> could correct the none-mlocked but unevictable folio. But it doesn't because
>>>>>>> of this race.
>>>>>> (+Hugh Dickins for vis)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yu, I am not familiar with the split_folio() case, so I am not sure it
>>>>>> is the same exact race I stated above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you confirm whether or not doing folio_test_clear_mlocked() before
>>>>>> folio_test_clear_lru() would fix the race you are referring to? IIUC,
>>>>>> in this case, we make sure we clear PG_mlocked before we try to to
>>>>>> clear PG_lru. If we fail to clear it, then someone else have the folio
>>>>>> isolated after we clear PG_mlocked, so we can be sure that when they
>>>>>> put the folio back it will be correctly made evictable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is my understanding correct?
>>>>> Hmm, actually this might not be enough. In folio_add_lru() we will
>>>>> call folio_batch_add_and_move(), which calls lru_add_fn() and *then*
>>>>> sets PG_lru. Since we check folio_evictable() in lru_add_fn(), the
>>>>> race can still happen:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cpu1                              cpu2
>>>>>                                       folio_evictable() //false
>>>>> folio_test_clear_mlocked()
>>>>> folio_test_clear_lru() //false
>>>>>                                       folio_set_lru()
>>>>>
>>>>> Relying on PG_lru for synchronization might not be enough with the
>>>>> current code. We might need to revert 2262ace60713 ("mm/munlock:
>>>>> delete smp_mb() from __pagevec_lru_add_fn()").
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for going back and forth here, I am thinking out loud.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Currently, the order in lru_add_fn() is not correct.
>>>>
>>>> I think we should move folio_test_clear_lru(folio) into
>>>>
>>>> lru locked range. As the lru lock here was expected to
>>>>
>>>> use for sync here. Check the comment in lru_add_fn().
>>>
>>> Right, I am wondering if it would be better to just revert
>>> 2262ace60713 and rely on the memory barrier and operations ordering
>>> instead of the lru lock. The lru lock is heavily contended as-is, so
>>> avoiding using it where possible is preferable I assume.
>> My understanding is set_lru after add folio to lru list is correct.
>> Once folio_set_lru(), others can do isolation of this folio. But if
>> this folio is not in lru list yet, what could happen? It's not required
>> to hold lru lock to do isolation.
> 
> IIUC, clearing PG_lru is an atomic lockless operation to make sure no
> one else is isolating the folio, but then you need to hold the lruvec
> lock and actually delete the folio from the lru to complete its
> isolation. This is my read of folio_isolate_lru().
> 
> Anyway, whether we rely on the lruvec lock or memory barrier +
> operation ordering doesn't make a huge difference (I think?). The code
> seemed to work with the latter before mlock_count was introduced.
> 
> If we decide to go with the latter, I can integrate the fix into the
> refresh of my mlock_count rework RFC series (as it would be dependent
> on that series). If we decide to go with the lruvec, then it can be
> done as part of this series, or separately.
Let's wait the response from Huge and Yu. :).

> 
> Thanks.
> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Yin, Fengwei
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If yes, I can add this fix to my next version of the RFC series to
>>>>>> rework mlock_count. It would be a lot more complicated with the
>>>>>> current implementation (as I stated in a previous email).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The page would be stranded on the unevictable list in this case, no?
>>>>>>>> Maybe we should only try to isolate the page (clear PG_lru) after we
>>>>>>>> possibly clear PG_mlocked? In this case if we fail to isolate we know
>>>>>>>> for sure that whoever has the page isolated will observe that
>>>>>>>> PG_mlocked is clear and correctly make the page evictable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This probably would be complicated with the current implementation, as
>>>>>>>> we first need to decrement mlock_count to determine if we want to
>>>>>>>> clear PG_mlocked, and to do so we need to isolate the page as
>>>>>>>> mlock_count overlays page->lru. With the proposal in [1] to rework
>>>>>>>> mlock_count, it might be much simpler as far as I can tell. I intend
>>>>>>>> to refresh this proposal soon-ish.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230618065719.1363271-1-yosryahmed@google.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Yin, Fengwei
>>>>>>>>>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-19  2:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-12  6:01 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] support large folio for mlock Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:01 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] mm: add functions folio_in_range() and folio_within_vma() Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:11   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-12  6:01 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] mm: handle large folio when large folio in VM_LOCKED VMA range Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:23   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-12  6:43     ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12 17:03       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-13  1:55         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-14  2:21       ` Hugh Dickins
2023-07-14  2:49         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-14  3:41           ` Hugh Dickins
2023-07-14  5:45             ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:01 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] mm: mlock: update mlock_pte_range to handle large folio Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:31   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-15  6:06     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-16 23:59       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-17  0:35         ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-17  1:58           ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-18 22:48             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-18 23:47               ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-19  1:32                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-19  1:52                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-19  1:57                     ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-19  2:00                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-19  2:09                         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-19  2:22                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-19  2:28                             ` Yin Fengwei [this message]
2023-07-19 14:26                               ` Hugh Dickins
2023-07-19 15:44                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-20 12:02                                   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-20 20:51                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-21  1:12                                       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-21  1:35                                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-21  3:18                                           ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-21  3:39                                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-20  1:52                                 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-17  8:12           ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-18  2:06             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-18  3:59               ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-26 12:49       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-26 16:57         ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-27  0:15           ` Yin Fengwei

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