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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Hyesoo Yu <hyesoo.yu@samsung.com>,
	Zhaoyang Huang <huangzhaoyang@gmail.com>
Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	jaewon31.kim@samsung.com,
	"zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com" <zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com>,
	"surenb@google.com" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Steve.Kang@unisoc.com" <Steve.Kang@unisoc.com>,
	Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	janghyuck.kim@samsung.com
Subject: Re: reply: [RFC] pin_user_pages_fast failure count increased
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 11:38:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3d9c45c-628d-41e2-aeff-973ea7da46f7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250526093258.GA3489925@tiffany>

On 26.05.25 11:33, Hyesoo Yu wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 04:05:16PM +0800, Zhaoyang Huang wrote:
>> On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 3:50 PM Hyesoo Yu <hyesoo.yu@samsung.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 07:52:41PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/25 7:37 PM, 김재원 wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> I think this is what you meant, please let me know if you have an idea to make this nicer.
>>>>> We may be to able to prepare the patch next week.
>>>>>
>>>>>   static long
>>>>>   check_and_migrate_movable_pages_or_folios(struct pages_or_folios *pofs)
>>>>>   {
>>>>> +       bool any_unpinnable;
>>>>>          LIST_HEAD(movable_folio_list);
>>>>>
>>>>> -       collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios(&movable_folio_list, pofs);
>>>>> -       if (list_empty(&movable_folio_list))
>>>>> -               return 0;
>>>>> +       any_unpinnable = collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios(&movable_folio_list, pofs);
>>>>> +       if (list_empty(&movable_folio_list)) {
>>>>> +               if (any_unpinnable)
>>>>> +                       pofs_unpin(pofs);
>>>>
>>>> I think this is correct, although as I mentioned in the other thread,
>>>> that implies that commit 1aaf8c122918 (which didn't add nor remove
>>>> any pof unpinning) is probably not the true or only culprit, right?
>>>>
>>>>> +               return any_unpinnable ? -EAGAIN : 0;
>>>>
>>>> Ha, the "?" operator almost always does more harm than good.
>>>>
>>>> Here, for example, it has obscured from you the fact that any_unpinnable
>>>> is being checked twice, when you could have merged those into a single "if".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if the original problem - an infinite loop when pages allocated by
>>> cma_alloc() in vm_ops->fault are passed to GUP - still remains unresolved.
>>> (To be honest, I'm not quite sure how such pages end up being pinned via GUP.
>>>   Is that the expected behavior, or could it possibly indicate a bug ?)
>> The original problem arises from applying CMA as guestOS's memory
>> slots for kvm which use GUP to setup its 2nd stage mapping(HVA->PFN).
>> You can check KVM code if you are interested.
>>
> 
> Thanks for the kind explanation. While I'm not deeply familiar with KVM, my understanding
> is that there are cases where GUP is used on CMA.
> 
> So does that mean pinning memory from the CMA was actually intended to succeed ?

Careful: KVM uses ordinary GUP, not GUP-longterm.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-26  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAJrd-UtDD50iN=Yxz4=6kNkAcNAtRFkxhKAbEYiRyyDT-bYPHg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-05-22 10:18 ` reply: [RFC] pin_user_pages_fast failure count increased 黄朝阳 (Zhaoyang Huang)
2025-05-22 12:22   ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]     ` <CGME20250522130101epcas1p435244c12cfc9bb7895008b8ea98af064@epcms1p3>
2025-05-22 13:09       ` Jaewon Kim
2025-05-22 14:06         ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]         ` <CGME20250522130101epcas1p435244c12cfc9bb7895008b8ea98af064@epcms1p2>
2025-05-22 14:44           ` 김재원
2025-05-22 15:07             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-23  2:48               ` John Hubbard
2025-05-23  2:37           ` 김재원
2025-05-23  2:52             ` John Hubbard
2025-05-26  7:48               ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-05-26  8:05                 ` Zhaoyang Huang
2025-05-26  9:33                   ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-05-26  9:38                     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <CGME20250522130101epcas1p435244c12cfc9bb7895008b8ea98af064@epcms1p8>
2025-05-26 11:17                       ` Jaewon Kim
2025-05-26 11:49                         ` Zhaoyang Huang
2025-05-28  1:23                           ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-05-28  2:49                             ` Zhaoyang Huang
2025-05-28  3:36                               ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-05-28  7:55                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-28 10:59                                   ` Zhaoyang Huang
2025-05-28 12:57                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 13:12                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04  1:04                                       ` Zhaoyang Huang
2025-06-04  9:12                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04  9:41                                           ` Zhaoyang Huang
2025-06-04  9:48                                             ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]                                               ` <CGME20250604095542epcas2p3f3d2d6fc17115547981a7173215a09d1@epcas2p3.samsung.com>
2025-06-04  9:53                                                 ` Hyesoo Yu

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