From: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/7] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 08:26:30 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4ea9218-87c1-4b9f-a241-6a2e15e1072a@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agHp3ltvUba92LZr@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>
On 11-May-26 8:08 PM, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 04:07:16PM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
>>
>> The entire point of this patchset is not just about improving the performance.
>> It is mainly about adding a new dedicated infrastructure for detecting and
>> promoting hot pages. It is about having a subsystem that can act as a single
>> source of truth page hotness in the kernel. Though we aren't there yet, we have
>> started by having a minimal infrastructure that centralizes the hot page
>> promotion and associated heuristics that currently sits in scheduler so that the
>> same can be used with other page hotness sources as well.
>>
>
> The goal of hotness tracking in general is to improve performance.
Agreed. As I have mentioned elsewhere in the thread, right now we have just
moved the existing promotion mechanism to pghot, hence the initial concern has
been to ensure the earlier performance levels are still met with centralized
promotion engine that does batched promotions from non-process context.
>
> The goal of PGHot should be a reasonable baseline for the kernel to
> course-correct LRU inversions across tiers over time, because LRU
> threads only scan invidiual nodes and don't compare across nodes.
Right.
>
> I would hazard against trying to wholesale state it "Shall be the single
> source of truth", as we will inevitably discover some condition which is
> not covered / cannot be captured / we will simply get it wrong.
Yeah. The ideal goal of single source of truth may be a bit far fetched but
pghot is definitely a subsystem that can work with multiple page hotness
sources, aggregate hot signals from them and provide a single unified promotion
mechanism.
Regards,
Bharata.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-13 2:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-04 6:09 [PATCH v7 0/7] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 6:09 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] mm: migrate: Allow misplaced migration without VMA Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 6:09 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] mm: migrate: Add promote_misplaced_memcg_folios() Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 18:14 ` Donet Tom
2026-05-06 6:15 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 6:09 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion - pghot Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 6:09 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] mm: pghot: Precision mode for pghot Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 18:41 ` Donet Tom
2026-05-06 6:17 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 6:09 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] mm: sched: move NUMA balancing tiering promotion to pghot Bharata B Rao
2026-05-05 4:44 ` Donet Tom
2026-05-06 6:20 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 6:09 ` [RFC PATCH v7 6/7] x86/ibs: Move IBS caps definitions into its own header Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 6:09 ` [RFC PATCH v7 7/7] x86/mm/ibs: In-kernel driver for AMD IBS Memory Profiler Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 6:23 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure Bharata B Rao
2026-05-04 20:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-05 22:17 ` Balbir Singh
2026-05-06 3:43 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-05-06 4:02 ` Balbir Singh
2026-05-06 5:00 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-05-06 15:22 ` Gregory Price
2026-05-11 10:02 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-05-11 14:27 ` Gregory Price
2026-05-05 10:41 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-05-09 1:18 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-11 10:37 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-05-11 14:38 ` Gregory Price
2026-05-13 2:56 ` Bharata B Rao [this message]
2026-05-05 13:42 ` Bharata B Rao
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