From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
will@kernel.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
ryan.roberts@arm.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
riel@surriel.com, harry.yoo@oracle.com, jannh@google.com,
willy@infradead.org, dev.jain@arm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/5] mm: rmap: support batched checks of the references for large folios
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 14:25:15 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e54e0ec1-b968-4e12-84a3-4e3d331b1c36@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43831628-a00f-4292-9797-cb96a029bb00@kernel.org>
On 3/10/26 4:17 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 3/10/26 02:37, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 3/7/26 4:02 PM, Barry Song wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2026 at 10:22 AM Baolin Wang
>>> <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes. In addition, this will involve many architectures’ implementations
>>>> and their differing TLB flush mechanisms, so it’s difficult to make a
>>>> reasonable per-architecture measurement. If any architecture has a more
>>>> efficient flush method, I’d prefer to implement an architecture‑specific
>>>> clear_flush_young_ptes().
>>>
>>> Right! Since TLBI is usually quite expensive, I wonder if a generic
>>> implementation for architectures lacking clear_flush_young_ptes()
>>> might benefit from something like the below (just a very rough idea):
>>>
>>> int clear_flush_young_ptes(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep, unsigned int nr)
>>> {
>>> unsigned long curr_addr = addr;
>>> int young = 0;
>>>
>>> while (nr--) {
>>> young |= ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, curr_addr,
>>> ptep);
>>> ptep++;
>>> curr_addr += PAGE_SIZE;
>>> }
>>>
>>> if (young)
>>> flush_tlb_range(vma, addr, curr_addr);
>>> return young;
>>> }
>>
>> I understand your point. I’m concerned that I can’t test this patch on
>> every architecture to validate the benefits. Anyway, let me try this on
>> my X86 machine first.
>
> In any case, please make that a follow-up patch :)
Sure. However, after investigating RISC‑V and x86, I found that
ptep_clear_flush_young() does not flush the TLB on these architectures:
int ptep_clear_flush_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
unsigned long address, pte_t *ptep)
{
/*
* On x86 CPUs, clearing the accessed bit without a TLB flush
* doesn't cause data corruption. [ It could cause incorrect
* page aging and the (mistaken) reclaim of hot pages, but the
* chance of that should be relatively low. ]
*
* So as a performance optimization don't flush the TLB when
* clearing the accessed bit, it will eventually be flushed by
* a context switch or a VM operation anyway. [ In the rare
* event of it not getting flushed for a long time the delay
* shouldn't really matter because there's no real memory
* pressure for swapout to react to. ]
*/
return ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, address, ptep);
}
I don't have access to other architectures, so I think we can postpone
this optimization unless someone is interested in optimizing the TLB flush.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-16 6:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-09 14:07 [PATCH v6 0/5] support batch checking of references and unmapping for large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] mm: rmap: support batched checks of the references " Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-06 21:07 ` Barry Song
2026-03-07 2:22 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-07 8:02 ` Barry Song
2026-03-10 1:37 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-10 8:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16 6:25 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-03-16 14:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-25 14:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-25 15:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 15:30 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 15:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 16:23 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 16:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 18:43 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 18:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 1:47 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-26 5:31 ` Barry Song
2026-03-26 11:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 12:04 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-26 12:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-17 7:30 ` Barry Song
2026-03-18 1:37 ` Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] arm64: mm: factor out the address and ptep alignment into a new helper Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] arm64: mm: support batch clearing of the young flag for large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] arm64: mm: implement the architecture-specific clear_flush_young_ptes() Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-10 0:39 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-06 21:20 ` Barry Song
2026-03-07 2:14 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-07 7:41 ` Barry Song
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] mm: rmap: support batched unmapping for file large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-10 1:53 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] support batch checking of references and unmapping for " Andrew Morton
2026-02-10 2:01 ` Baolin Wang
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