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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	 will@kernel.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com,  Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,  mhocko@suse.com,
	riel@surriel.com, harry.yoo@oracle.com, jannh@google.com,
	 willy@infradead.org, dev.jain@arm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/5] mm: rmap: support batched checks of the references for large folios
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 14:36:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e5cb474a-a84d-4edc-8289-d68378feee7d@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86f611cb-1292-44e4-b629-6503135d33ca@kernel.org>

On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 03:15:18PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 3/16/26 07:25, Baolin Wang wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 3/10/26 4:17 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> On 3/10/26 02:37, Baolin Wang wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I understand your point. I’m concerned that I can’t test this patch on
> >>> every architecture to validate the benefits. Anyway, let me try this on
> >>> my X86 machine first.
> >>
> >> In any case, please make that a follow-up patch :)
> >
> > Sure. However, after investigating RISC‑V and x86, I found that
> > ptep_clear_flush_young() does not flush the TLB on these architectures:
> >
> > int ptep_clear_flush_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >                unsigned long address, pte_t *ptep)
> > {
> >     /*
> >      * On x86 CPUs, clearing the accessed bit without a TLB flush
> >      * doesn't cause data corruption. [ It could cause incorrect
> >      * page aging and the (mistaken) reclaim of hot pages, but the
> >      * chance of that should be relatively low. ]
> >      *
> >      * So as a performance optimization don't flush the TLB when
> >      * clearing the accessed bit, it will eventually be flushed by
> >      * a context switch or a VM operation anyway. [ In the rare
> >      * event of it not getting flushed for a long time the delay
> >      * shouldn't really matter because there's no real memory
> >      * pressure for swapout to react to. ]
> >      */
> >     return ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, address, ptep);
> > }
>
> You'd probably want an arch helper then, that tells you whether
> a flush_tlb_range() after ptep_test_and_clear_young() is required.
>
> Or some special flush_tlb_range() helper.
>
> I agree that it requires more work.

Sorry unclear here - does the series need more work or does a follow up patch
need more work?

As this is in mm-stable afaict.

Thanks, Lorenzo

>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-25 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-09 14:07 [PATCH v6 0/5] support batch checking of references and unmapping for large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] mm: rmap: support batched checks of the references " Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:25   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-06 21:07   ` Barry Song
2026-03-07  2:22     ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-07  8:02       ` Barry Song
2026-03-10  1:37         ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-10  8:17           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16  6:25             ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-16 14:15               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-25 14:36                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) [this message]
2026-03-25 14:58                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-25 15:06                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 15:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 15:32                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 16:23                           ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 16:28                             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-25 18:43                               ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 18:58                                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26  1:47                       ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-26  5:31                         ` Barry Song
2026-03-26 11:10                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 12:04                           ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-26 12:21                             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-17  7:30               ` Barry Song
2026-03-18  1:37                 ` Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] arm64: mm: factor out the address and ptep alignment into a new helper Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] arm64: mm: support batch clearing of the young flag for large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] arm64: mm: implement the architecture-specific clear_flush_young_ptes() Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:30   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-10  0:39     ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-06 21:20   ` Barry Song
2026-03-07  2:14     ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-07  7:41       ` Barry Song
2026-02-09 14:07 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] mm: rmap: support batched unmapping for file large folios Baolin Wang
2026-02-09 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-10  1:53 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] support batch checking of references and unmapping for " Andrew Morton
2026-02-10  2:01   ` Baolin Wang

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