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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/gup: remove (VM_)BUG_ONs
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 11:01:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e680a8f3-7b45-4836-8da7-7e7a0d2fcd56@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aEKnSxHG8_BGj7zQ@tiehlicka>

On 06.06.25 10:31, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 06-06-25 10:10:14, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 05.06.25 09:10, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Wed 04-06-25 16:05:44, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> Especially once we hit one of the assertions in
>>>> sanity_check_pinned_pages(), observing follow-up assertions failing
>>>> in other code can give good clues about what went wrong, so use
>>>> VM_WARN_ON_ONCE instead.
>>>>
>>>> While at it, let's just convert all VM_BUG_ON to VM_WARN_ON_ONCE as
>>>> well. Add one comment for the pfn_valid() check.
>>>>
>>>> We have to introduce VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_VMA() to make that fly.
>>>>
>>>> Drop the BUG_ON after mmap_read_lock_killable(), if that ever returns
>>>> something > 0 we're in bigger trouble. Convert the other BUG_ON's into
>>>> VM_WARN_ON_ONCE as well, they are in a similar domain "should never
>>>> happen", but more reasonable to check for during early testing.
>>>
>>> The patch itself makes sense and I think it is good time to revisit old
>>> discussion [1] and finally drop VM_BUG_ON altogether and replace it by
>>> VM_WARN_ON which could be still a useful debugging aid.
>>
>> Yes. I think we should check all cases if they are really relevant (and are
>> clear), and also handle BUG_ON on the way.
> 
> There are more than 600 VM_BUG_ON instances.I am not sure it is
> feasible to review single one of them.

I'm sure we would be done if we would have started back when Dave R. 
sent his patch ... :)

It's not that many files, and many checks in a file are often of a 
similar kind.

Like many "folio_test_locked" checks.

> Turning them into VM_WARN_ON
> should be reasonably safe as they are not enabled in production
> environment anyway so we cannot really rely on those. Having them in
> WARN form would be still useful for debugging and those that really need
> a crash dump while debugging can achieve the same result.

One question is if we should be VM_WARN_ON vs. VM_WARN_ON_ONCE ...

VM_BUG_ON is essentially a "once" thing so far, but then, we don't 
continue ... so probably most should be _ONCE.

> 
> So while I agree that many of them could be dropped or made more clear
> those could be dealt with after a mass move. An advantage of this would
> be that we can drop VM_BUG_ON* and stop new instances from being added.

As a first step we could probably just #define them to go to the 
VM_WARN_ON_* variants and see what happens.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-06  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-04 14:05 [PATCH v1] mm/gup: remove (VM_)BUG_ONs David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 14:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-04 14:26   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-06-04 14:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 14:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 15:44     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 15:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-04 16:05     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 15:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04 16:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 17:25 ` SeongJae Park
2025-06-04 19:12 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-04 19:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05  1:07 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-05  5:37   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-05  6:08     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05  8:48       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-05 12:29         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05  7:10 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06  8:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06  8:31     ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06  9:01       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-06 10:13         ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 10:19           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 10:28             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 11:04               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 11:44                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 11:56                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 12:12                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 12:17                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 17:57                 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:06                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 18:15                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:21                       ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:23                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:31                           ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:36                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:39                               ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:34                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 18:42                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-06 18:46                             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 19:03                               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-07 13:42                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-07 13:53                                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-07 18:00                                     ` John Hubbard
2025-06-09  9:57                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 10:54                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 10:56                                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 17:27                                             ` John Hubbard
2025-06-11  9:32                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11 12:03                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-11 12:06                                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 10:28             ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 10:27           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06  8:12 ` David Hildenbrand

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