From: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range()
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:14:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7a1ff17-d7c8-45bf-ae2c-18ac3a37c22d@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4xDdBtOwHqGSrtmJv=p6XDHFDT8RC==PybCc6e1qib=Fw@mail.gmail.com>
On 2024/10/21 15:55, Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 8:47 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 7:09 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2024/10/21 13:38, Barry Song wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:16 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024/10/21 12:15, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 8:48 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 15:32, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 13:23, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 6:20 PM Kefeng Wang
>>>>>>>>> <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/17 23:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Directly use folio_zero_range() to cleanup code.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure there's no performance regression introduced by this?
>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage() is often optimised in ways that we can't optimise for
>>>>>>>>>>> a plain memset(). On the other hand, if the folio is large, maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>> modern CPU will be able to do better than clear-one-page-at-a-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right, I missing this, clear_page might be better than memset, I change
>>>>>>>>>> this one when look at the shmem_writepage(), which already convert to
>>>>>>>>>> use folio_zero_range() from clear_highpage(), also I grep
>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), there are some other to use folio_zero_range().
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>> fs/libfs.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>> fs/ntfs3/frecord.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>> mm/page_io.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>> mm/shmem.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, what performance testing have you done with this patch?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No performance test before, but I write a testcase,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) allocate N large folios (folio_alloc(PMD_ORDER))
>>>>>>>>>> 2) then calculate the diff(us) when clear all N folios
>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage/folio_zero_range/folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>> 3) release N folios
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the result(run 5 times) shown below on my machine,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> N=1,
>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>> 1 69 74 177
>>>>>>>>>> 2 57 62 168
>>>>>>>>>> 3 54 58 234
>>>>>>>>>> 4 54 58 157
>>>>>>>>>> 5 56 62 148
>>>>>>>>>> avg 58 62.8 176.8
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> N=100
>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>> 1 11015 11309 32833
>>>>>>>>>> 2 10385 11110 49751
>>>>>>>>>> 3 10369 11056 33095
>>>>>>>>>> 4 10332 11017 33106
>>>>>>>>>> 5 10483 11000 49032
>>>>>>>>>> avg 10516.8 11098.4 39563.4
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> N=512
>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>> 1 55560 60055 156876
>>>>>>>>>> 2 55485 60024 157132
>>>>>>>>>> 3 55474 60129 156658
>>>>>>>>>> 4 55555 59867 157259
>>>>>>>>>> 5 55528 59932 157108
>>>>>>>>>> avg 55520.4 60001.4 157006.6
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_user with many cond_resched(), so time fluctuates a lot,
>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage is better folio_zero_range as you said.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe add a new helper to convert all folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio))
>>>>>>>>>> to use clear_highpage + flush_dcache_folio?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If this also improves performance for other existing callers of
>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), then that's a positive outcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>>> hi Kefeng,
>>>>>> what's your point? providing a helper like clear_highfolio() or similar?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, from above test, using clear_highpage/flush_dcache_folio is better
>>>>> than using folio_zero_range() for folio zero(especially for large
>>>>> folio), so I'd like to add a new helper, maybe name it folio_zero()
>>>>> since it zero the whole folio.
>>>>
>>>> we already have a helper like folio_zero_user()?
>>>> it is not good enough?
>>>
>>> Since it is with many cond_resched(), the performance is worst...
>>
>> Not exactly? It should have zero cost for a preemptible kernel.
>> For a non-preemptible kernel, it helps avoid clearing the folio
>> from occupying the CPU and starving other processes, right?
>
> --- a/mm/shmem.c
> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
>
> @@ -2393,10 +2393,7 @@ static int shmem_get_folio_gfp(struct inode
> *inode, pgoff_t index,
> * it now, lest undo on failure cancel our earlier guarantee.
> */
>
> if (sgp != SGP_WRITE && !folio_test_uptodate(folio)) {
> - long i, n = folio_nr_pages(folio);
> -
> - for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
> - clear_highpage(folio_page(folio, i));
> + folio_zero_user(folio, vmf->address);
> flush_dcache_folio(folio);
> folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
> }
>
> Do we perform better or worse with the following?
Here is for SGP_FALLOC, vmf = NULL, we could use folio_zero_user(folio,
0), I think the performance is worse, will retest once I can access
hardware.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-21 8:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-17 14:25 [PATCH] mm: shmem: avoid repeated flush dcache in shmem_writepage() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 15:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18 5:20 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 5:23 ` Barry Song
2024-10-18 7:32 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 7:47 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 4:15 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 5:16 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 5:38 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 6:09 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 7:47 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 7:55 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 8:14 ` Kefeng Wang [this message]
2024-10-21 9:17 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 15:33 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 20:32 ` Barry Song
2024-10-22 15:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-22 22:56 ` Barry Song
2024-10-24 10:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 2:59 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 7:42 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 7:47 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 10:21 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 12:21 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 13:35 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 2:39 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-28 6:37 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 11:41 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-30 1:26 ` Huang, Ying
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