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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	scott@os.amperecomputing.com, cl@gentwo.org
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/6] arm64: support FEAT_BBM level 2 and large block mapping when rodata=full
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 17:28:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e86e2aa5-c66c-41a9-a56d-74451df0d105@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92719b15-daf8-484f-b0db-72e23ae696ad@os.amperecomputing.com>

Hi Yang,

Sorry for the slow reply; I'm just getting back to this...

On 11/09/2025 23:03, Yang Shi wrote:
> Hi Ryan & Catalin,
> 
> Any more concerns about this? 

I've been trying to convince myself that your assertion that all users that set
the VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS also call set_memory_*() for the entire range that was
returned my vmalloc. I agree that if that is the contract and everyone is
following it, then there is no problem here.

But I haven't been able to convince myself...

Some examples (these might intersect with examples you previously raised):

1. bpf_dispatcher_change_prog() -> bpf_jit_alloc_exec() -> execmem_alloc() ->
sets VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS. But I don't see it calling set_memory_*() for rw_image.

2. module_memory_alloc() -> execmem_alloc_rw() -> execmem_alloc() -> sets
VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS (note that execmem_force_rw() is nop for arm64).
set_memory_*() is not called until much later on in module_set_memory(). Another
error in the meantime could cause the memory to be vfreed before that point.

3. When set_vm_flush_reset_perms() is set for the range, it is called before
set_memory_*() which might then fail to split prior to vfree.

But I guess as long as set_memory_*() is never successfully called for a
*sub-range* of the vmalloc'ed region, then for all of the above issues, the
memory must still be RW at vfree-time, so this issue should be benign... I think?

In summary this all looks horribly fragile. But I *think* it works. It would be
good to clean it all up and have some clearly documented rules regardless. But I
think that could be a follow up series.

> Shall we move forward with v8? 

Yes; Do you wnat me to post that or would you prefer to do it? I'm happy to do
it; there are a few other tidy ups in pageattr.c I want to make which I spotted.

> We can include the
> fix to kprobes in v8 or I can send it separately, either is fine to me.

Post it on list, and I'll also incorporate into the series.

> Hopefully we can make v6.18.

It's probably getting a bit late now. Anyway, I'll aim to get v8 out tomorrow or
Friday and we will see what Will thinks.

Thanks,
Ryan

> 
> Thanks,
> Yang
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-17 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29 11:52 [PATCH v7 0/6] arm64: support FEAT_BBM level 2 and large block mapping when rodata=full Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] arm64: Enable permission change on arm64 kernel block mappings Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04  3:40   ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-09-04 11:06     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 11:49       ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-09-04 13:21         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-16 21:37       ` Yang Shi
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] arm64: cpufeature: add AmpereOne to BBML2 allow list Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 22:08   ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 11:07     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-03 17:24   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-04  0:49     ` Yang Shi
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] arm64: mm: support large block mapping when rodata=full Ryan Roberts
2025-09-03 19:15   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-04  0:52     ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 11:09     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 11:15   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 14:57     ` Yang Shi
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] arm64: mm: Optimize split_kernel_leaf_mapping() Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 22:11   ` Yang Shi
2025-09-03 19:20   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-04 11:09     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] arm64: mm: split linear mapping if BBML2 unsupported on secondary CPUs Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 16:59   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-04 17:54     ` Yang Shi
2025-09-08 15:25     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] arm64: mm: Optimize linear_map_split_to_ptes() Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 22:27   ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 11:10     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 14:58       ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 17:00   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-01  5:04 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] arm64: support FEAT_BBM level 2 and large block mapping when rodata=full Dev Jain
2025-09-01  8:03   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-03  0:21     ` Yang Shi
2025-09-03  0:50       ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 13:14         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 13:16           ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 17:47             ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 21:49               ` Yang Shi
2025-09-08 16:34                 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-08 18:31                   ` Yang Shi
2025-09-09 14:36                     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-09 15:32                       ` Yang Shi
2025-09-09 16:32                         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-09 17:32                           ` Yang Shi
2025-09-11 22:03                             ` Yang Shi
2025-09-17 16:28                               ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2025-09-17 17:21                                 ` Yang Shi
2025-09-17 18:58                                   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-17 19:15                                     ` Yang Shi
2025-09-17 19:40                                       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-17 19:59                                         ` Yang Shi
2025-09-16 23:44               ` Yang Shi

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