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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
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	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
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	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
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	Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
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	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/shmem: add shmem_insert_folio()
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 21:35:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea5063c9-9db1-4314-a8d0-c693de412b65@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5e310c7f4506ef373c705180b33b9d5b2645b1a.camel@linux.intel.com>

On 5/13/26 16:53, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-05-13 at 13:36 +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 5/13/26 12:37, Thomas Hellström wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
> [...]
>>> One alternative would be a single large sparse shmem object common
>>> for
>>> all DRM objects, with a range allocator, but that also got pretty
>>> ugly
>>> when I tried to implement that.
>>
>> Does not sound too crazy, though.
>>
>>>
> 
> Yeah, I stumbled on finding a reasonable idea to connect a shmem folio
> to the pool LRUs and the range allocator metadata.
> 
> Assuming a shmem folio is pinned using the memfd pinning interface,
> would folio->private be temporarily available?

I think shmem uses folio->private only when the folio is in the swapcache
(through folio->swap). So one has to protect against that.

So you're thinking of a model, where a shmem file is essentially fully "owned"
by a DRM object, and that owner could make use of folio->private as long as the
folio is prevented from getting swapped out? (e.g., longterm pinned etc)

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-13 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-12 11:03 [PATCH 0/2] Insert instead of copy pages into shmem when shrinking Thomas Hellström
2026-05-12 11:03 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/shmem: add shmem_insert_folio() Thomas Hellström
2026-05-12 11:07   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12 11:31     ` Thomas Hellström
2026-05-12 20:03       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-13  7:47         ` Christian König
2026-05-13  8:31           ` Thomas Hellström
2026-05-13  9:30             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-13  8:37           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-13  8:51             ` Thomas Hellström
2026-05-13 10:03               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-13 10:37                 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-05-13 11:36                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-13 14:53                     ` Thomas Hellström
2026-05-13 19:35                       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-05-13 11:54             ` Christian König
2026-05-13 19:43               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12 11:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/ttm: Use ttm_backup_insert_folio() for zero-copy swapout Thomas Hellström

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