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From: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 16:10:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eaae7338-df88-4fc5-953e-3e0584bd5380@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaf2d81-75b5-4f02-99ea-03ea0f1a5a96@intel.com>

On 6/20/2025 11:24 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/20/25 11:14, Sohil Mehta wrote:
>> @Dave Hansen, you had suggested separating out the SMAP/LASS AC toggle
>> functions. But, the difference in usage between both of them seems very
>> subtle. Could this be easily misused?
> 
> Logically there are two completely different things:
> 
> 	1. Touching userspace
> 	2. Touching the lower half of the address space
> 
> If it's only userspace in the lower half of the address space, then
> there's no controversy. But the problem obviously occurs when you want
> to touch kernel mappings in the lower half of the address space.
> 

Makes sense. If we decide to go this way, we should capture some of this
thinking into the kernel comments. I find the current wording very
ambiguous.

> I want to preserve the "stac/clas" meaning as just "touch userspace".
> 
> The new functions should be for "touch the lower half of the address
> space" alone. Maybe it should be:
> 
> 	lass_disable_enforcement()
> 	lass_enable_enforcement()
> 
> The only downside of not having stac/clac in the names is that it's not
> obvious that they have an impact on SMAP because they're named to be
> LASS-only. 

Yeah, the reverse is also true, where the SMAP specific clac()/stac()
toggle LASS enforcement :)



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-20 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250620135325.3300848-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-9-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 14:47   ` [PATCHv6 08/16] x86/traps: Consolidate user fixups in exc_general_protection() Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-14-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:20   ` [PATCHv6 13/16] x86/traps: Handle LASS thrown #SS Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:53     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-2-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:25   ` [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 15:36   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:31     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 23:46       ` Xin Li
2025-06-21  0:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-21  0:50           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 17:40             ` Xin Li
2025-06-24  2:04               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24  4:57                 ` Xin Li
2025-06-24  5:11                   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:02   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:12     ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:16       ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-20 17:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 18:29       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23  8:17         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 10:21           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23 13:42             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-26 15:18               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 16:07                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 17:21                   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-27 10:25                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-27 10:43                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-27 13:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 18:14   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 18:24     ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:10       ` Sohil Mehta [this message]
2025-06-23 16:25       ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 16:42         ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 23:13           ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 23:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24  0:10               ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-24  2:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-25 18:51     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-4-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:33   ` [PATCHv6 03/16] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel alternatives Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-5-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:35   ` [PATCHv6 04/16] x86/efi: Move runtime service initialization to arch/x86 Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:42     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:38 ` [PATCHv6 00/16] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 22:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 22:29     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:46     ` Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-6-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:44   ` [PATCHv6 05/16] x86/cpu: Defer CR pinning setup until after EFI initialization Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-7-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:55   ` [PATCHv6 06/16] efi: Disable LASS around set_virtual_address_map() EFI call Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:50     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-8-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 18:43   ` [PATCHv6 07/16] x86/vsyscall: Reorganize the #PF emulation code Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:08     ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:18       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 23:29         ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:21       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-21  3:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 12:41         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 12:46           ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-23 15:32           ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 15:45             ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-24 11:37             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-24 14:11               ` Dave Hansen

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