From: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 16:10:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <eaae7338-df88-4fc5-953e-3e0584bd5380@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaf2d81-75b5-4f02-99ea-03ea0f1a5a96@intel.com>
On 6/20/2025 11:24 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/20/25 11:14, Sohil Mehta wrote:
>> @Dave Hansen, you had suggested separating out the SMAP/LASS AC toggle
>> functions. But, the difference in usage between both of them seems very
>> subtle. Could this be easily misused?
>
> Logically there are two completely different things:
>
> 1. Touching userspace
> 2. Touching the lower half of the address space
>
> If it's only userspace in the lower half of the address space, then
> there's no controversy. But the problem obviously occurs when you want
> to touch kernel mappings in the lower half of the address space.
>
Makes sense. If we decide to go this way, we should capture some of this
thinking into the kernel comments. I find the current wording very
ambiguous.
> I want to preserve the "stac/clas" meaning as just "touch userspace".
>
> The new functions should be for "touch the lower half of the address
> space" alone. Maybe it should be:
>
> lass_disable_enforcement()
> lass_enable_enforcement()
>
> The only downside of not having stac/clac in the names is that it's not
> obvious that they have an impact on SMAP because they're named to be
> LASS-only.
Yeah, the reverse is also true, where the SMAP specific clac()/stac()
toggle LASS enforcement :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-20 23:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20250620135325.3300848-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
[not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-9-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 14:47 ` [PATCHv6 08/16] x86/traps: Consolidate user fixups in exc_general_protection() Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-14-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:20 ` [PATCHv6 13/16] x86/traps: Handle LASS thrown #SS Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:53 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
[not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-2-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:25 ` [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 15:36 ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 23:46 ` Xin Li
2025-06-21 0:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-21 0:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 17:40 ` Xin Li
2025-06-24 2:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24 4:57 ` Xin Li
2025-06-24 5:11 ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:02 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:12 ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:16 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-20 17:33 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 18:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23 8:17 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 10:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23 13:42 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-26 15:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 16:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 17:21 ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-27 10:25 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-27 10:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-27 13:57 ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 18:14 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 18:24 ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:10 ` Sohil Mehta [this message]
2025-06-23 16:25 ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 16:42 ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 23:13 ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 23:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24 0:10 ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-24 2:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-25 18:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-4-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:33 ` [PATCHv6 03/16] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel alternatives Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:18 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
[not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-5-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:35 ` [PATCHv6 04/16] x86/efi: Move runtime service initialization to arch/x86 Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:42 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:38 ` [PATCHv6 00/16] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 22:04 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 22:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:46 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-6-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:44 ` [PATCHv6 05/16] x86/cpu: Defer CR pinning setup until after EFI initialization Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-7-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:55 ` [PATCHv6 06/16] efi: Disable LASS around set_virtual_address_map() EFI call Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:50 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
[not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-8-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 18:43 ` [PATCHv6 07/16] x86/vsyscall: Reorganize the #PF emulation code Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:08 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:18 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 23:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:21 ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-21 3:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 12:41 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 12:46 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-23 15:32 ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 15:45 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-24 11:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-24 14:11 ` Dave Hansen
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