From: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] mm/mglru: scan and count the exact number of folios
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 17:10:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ecf00130-ad30-41f1-81bb-cc9e1d360c52@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7CGhMsf4qWrW5O-s2AP7BwpbpPahEFkd-u3Q9jGFGCeZQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 2026/3/24 16:05, Kairui Song wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 3:22 PM Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
>> On 2026/3/23 0:20, Kairui Song wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 4:59 AM Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:11 PM Kairui Song via B4 Relay
>>>> <devnull+kasong.tencent.com@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Make the scan helpers return the exact number of folios being scanned
>>>>> or isolated. This should make the scan more accurate and easier to
>>>>> follow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now there is no more need for special handling when there is no
>>>>> progress made. The old livelock prevention `(return isolated ||
>>>>> !remaining ? scanned : 0)` is replaced by the natural scan budget
>>>>> exhaustion in try_to_shrink_lruvec, and sort_folio moves ineligible
>>>>> folios to newer generations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>
> ...
>
>>>>> static int evict_folios(unsigned long nr_to_scan, struct lruvec *lruvec,
>>>>> @@ -4852,7 +4851,6 @@ static int evict_folios(unsigned long nr_to_scan, struct lruvec *lruvec,
>>>>> struct reclaim_stat stat;
>>>>> struct lru_gen_mm_walk *walk;
>>>>> bool skip_retry = false;
>>>>> - struct lru_gen_folio *lrugen = &lruvec->lrugen;
>>>>> struct mem_cgroup *memcg = lruvec_memcg(lruvec);
>>>>> struct pglist_data *pgdat = lruvec_pgdat(lruvec);
>>>>>
>>>>> @@ -4860,10 +4858,7 @@ static int evict_folios(unsigned long nr_to_scan, struct lruvec *lruvec,
>>>>>
>>>>> scanned = isolate_folios(nr_to_scan, lruvec, sc, swappiness, &type, &list);
>>>>>
>>>>> - scanned += try_to_inc_min_seq(lruvec, swappiness);
>>>>> -
>>>>> - if (evictable_min_seq(lrugen->min_seq, swappiness) + MIN_NR_GENS > lrugen->max_seq)
>>>>> - scanned = 0;
>>>>> + try_to_inc_min_seq(lruvec, swappiness);
>>>>
>>>> IIUC, this change is what introduces the issue patch 6 is trying to
>>>> resolve. Is it worth squashing patch 6 in to this one, so we don't
>>>> have this non-ideal intermediate state?
>>>
>>> Well it's not, patch 6 is fixing an existing problem, see the cover
>>> letter about the OOM issue.
>>>
>>> This part of changing is just cleanup the loop code. It looks really
>>> strange to me that increasing min_seq is considered as scanning one
>>> folio. Aborting the scan if there is only 2 gen kind of make sense but
>>> this doesn't seems the right place. These strange parts to avoid
>>> livelock can be dropped since we have an exact count of folios being
>>> scanned now. I'll add more words in the commit message.
>>
>> This change confused me too.
>>
>> IIUC, this change looks conceptually tied to patch 3. The following change means
>> that evict_folios should not be invoked if aging is needed. So the judge can be
>> dropped there, right?
>>
>>
>> ```
>> static bool try_to_shrink_lruvec(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc)
>> {
>> ...
>> + if (should_run_aging(lruvec, max_seq, sc, swappiness)) {
>> + if (try_to_inc_max_seq(lruvec, max_seq, swappiness, false))
>> + need_rotate = true;
>> + break;
>> + }
>> ```
>>
>
> Hi Ridong,
>
> Ahh yes, as you pointed out, the explicit should_run_aging kind of
> guards the evict_folio. That's not everything, besides, previously
> isolate_folios may return 0 if there is no folio isolated. But now it
> always return the number of folios being scanned, unless there are
> only two genes left and hit the force protection, which also makes the
> judge here can be dropped.
>
> But not invoking evict_folios if aging is needed is an existing
> behavior, that commit (patch 3) didn't change it, just made it cleaner
> so we can see it well.
>
Thanks for the explanation.
Would it be better to combine this change with patch 3, rather than adding to
the commit message?
--
Best regards,
Ridong
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-24 9:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-17 19:08 [PATCH 0/8] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-17 19:08 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm/mglru: consolidate common code for retrieving evitable size Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-17 19:55 ` Yuanchu Xie
2026-03-18 9:42 ` Barry Song
2026-03-18 9:57 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-19 1:40 ` Chen Ridong
2026-03-20 19:51 ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-22 16:10 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 6:25 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-17 19:08 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm/mglru: relocate the LRU scan batch limit to callers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-19 2:00 ` Chen Ridong
2026-03-19 4:12 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-20 21:00 ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-22 8:14 ` Barry Song
2026-03-24 6:05 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-17 19:08 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm/mglru: restructure the reclaim loop Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-20 20:09 ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-22 16:11 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-24 6:41 ` Chen Ridong
2026-03-26 7:31 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-26 8:37 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-17 19:09 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm/mglru: scan and count the exact number of folios Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-20 20:57 ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-22 16:20 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-24 7:22 ` Chen Ridong
2026-03-24 8:05 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-24 9:10 ` Chen Ridong [this message]
2026-03-24 9:29 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-17 19:09 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm/mglru: use a smaller batch for reclaim Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-20 20:58 ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-24 7:51 ` Chen Ridong
2026-03-17 19:09 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm/mglru: don't abort scan immediately right after aging Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-17 19:09 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm/mglru: simplify and improve dirty writeback handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-20 21:18 ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-22 16:22 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-24 8:57 ` Chen Ridong
2026-03-24 11:09 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 7:56 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-17 19:09 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm/vmscan: remove sc->file_taken Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-20 21:19 ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-25 4:49 ` [PATCH 0/8] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling Eric Naim
2026-03-25 5:47 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-25 9:26 ` Eric Naim
2026-03-25 9:47 ` Kairui Song
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