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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, raghavendra.kt@amd.com, riel@surriel.com,
	rientjes@google.com, sj@kernel.org, weixugc@google.com,
	ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com, ziy@nvidia.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	nifan.cxl@gmail.com, xuezhengchu@huawei.com, yiannis@zptcorp.com,
	byungchul@sk.com, kinseyho@google.com, joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com,
	yuanchu@google.com, balbirs@nvidia.com, alok.rathore@samsung.com,
	shivankg@amd.com, donettom@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 21:20:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed9e7308-09c8-4631-a012-940cd6e11bbd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <amj3jbvruEiHIZvi@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On 7/28/26 20:57, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 07:24:46PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 11:14:01AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Can DAMON be used to do this sort of thing adequately?
>>>
>>> Thanks, I'll await review input on this.
>>
>> I don't think we should do this.  I don't think it's a use-case that
>> customers actually want; I think it's something CPU vendors think their
>> customers want.  I've said this repeatedly over the months this patchset
>> has been in development.  I say no.
>>
> 
> I've been consistent about saying we (Meta) have been actively
> interested in this work and helping to drive the design of it.
> 
> So it's not simply something born out of a CPU vendor think tank,
> we're actively working on solving real problems with it.
> 
> I don't have data I can share now, but I think it's fair to wait
> for that data before faith-merging this on the hopes it's impactful.
> It does make it more difficult for us to do fleet-scale testing
> without it being upstream, but we'll get something.
> 
> Tiered memory is being deployed aggressively [0] for considerable
> value, and is here to stay - like it or not.

The diffstat is scary, to say the least. And the x86 stuff certainly needs x86
maintainer acks.

So far there is no real review -- we're in v8 without a single tag.

So this is far away from being mergeable.

I'm afraid this will need a lot more discussions, and likely RFC would have been
still appropriate at this point.

It's a shame this work was going on for quite a while without feedback (blame me
if you want :) but there are only so many hours in a day), but the main problem
is that this work in particular was not perceived to be high or even medium
priority so far.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-28 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-28  5:43 [PATCH v8 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:43 ` [PATCH v8 1/8] mm: migrate: Allow misplaced migration without VMA Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:43 ` [PATCH v8 2/8] mm: migrate: Add promote_misplaced_memcg_folios() Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:43 ` [PATCH v8 3/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion - pghot Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:43 ` [PATCH v8 4/8] mm: pghot: Precision mode for pghot Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:43 ` [PATCH v8 5/8] mm: sched: move NUMA balancing tiering promotion to pghot Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:43 ` [PATCH v8 6/8] x86/ibs: Move IBS caps definitions into its own header Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:43 ` [PATCH v8 7/8] x86/mm/ibs: In-kernel driver for AMD IBS Memory Profiler Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:43 ` [PATCH v8 8/8] x86/mm/ibs: Add runtime controls for IBS memprofiler Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:55 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure - microbenchmark numbers Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  5:59 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure - NAS BT Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  6:02 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure - Graph500 Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  6:05 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure - redis-memtier Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28  6:17 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure - llama-bench Bharata B Rao
2026-07-28 18:14 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure Andrew Morton
2026-07-28 18:24   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-07-28 18:57     ` Gregory Price
2026-07-28 19:20       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-28 19:59         ` Gregory Price

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