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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hughd@google.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	dev.jain@arm.com, ziy@nvidia.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: huge_memory: disallow hugepages if the system-wide THP sysfs settings are disabled
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 16:09:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee646bca-e77d-4452-82f8-0bdb4b241f9c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce58b08c-0ac1-4ec2-8ff6-cf8e651709b0@lucifer.local>



>> @@ -265,6 +265,42 @@ unsigned long __thp_vma_allowable_orders(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>                                           unsigned long tva_flags,
>>                                           unsigned long orders);
>> +/* Strictly mask requested anonymous orders according to sysfs settings. */
>> +static inline unsigned long __thp_mask_anon_orders(unsigned long vm_flags,
>> +       unsigned long tva_flags, unsigned long orders)
>> +{
>> +       const unsigned long always = READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_always);
>> +       const unsigned long madvise = READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_madvise);
>> +       const unsigned long inherit = READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_inherit);
>> +       const unsigned long never = ~(always | madvise | inherit);
>> +
>> +       /* Disallow orders that are set to NEVER directly ... */
>> +       orders &= ~never;
>> +
>> +       /* ... or through inheritance (global == NEVER). */
>> +       if (!hugepage_global_enabled())
>> +               orders &= ~inherit;
>> +
>> +       /*
>> +        * Otherwise, we only enforce sysfs settings if asked. In addition,
>> +        * if the user sets a sysfs mode of madvise and if TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS
>> +        * is not set, we don't bother checking whether the VMA has VM_HUGEPAGE
>> +        * set.
>> +        */
>> +       if (!(tva_flags & TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS))
>> +               return orders;
> 
> This implicitly does a & mask as per suggested previous version, which I think
> is correct but worth pointing out.

Yes.

> 
>> +
>> +       if (!(vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)) {
> 
> Don't love this sort of mega negation here. I read this as _does_ have huge
> page...

Well, it's very common to do that, but not objecting to something that 
is clearer ;)

I assume you spotted the

if (!(tva_flags & TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS))

:P

if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
	return orders;


Would have been easier.

> 
>> +               /* Disallow orders that are set to MADVISE directly ... */
>> +               orders &= ~madvise;
>> +
>> +               /* ... or through inheritance (global == MADVISE). */
>> +               if (!hugepage_global_always())
>> +                       orders &= ~inherit;
> 
> I hate this implicit 'not hugepage global always so this means either never or
> madvise and since we cleared orders for never this means madvise' mental
> gymnastics required here.
> 
> Yeah I feel this is a bridge too far, we're getting into double negation and I
> think that's more confusiong.


Same here ... I think we should just have hugepage_global_madvise(). :)

> 
> 
>> +       }
> 
> I propose a compromise as I rather like your 'exclude never' negation bit.
> 
> So:
> 
> /* Strictly mask requested anonymous orders according to sysfs settings. */
> static inline unsigned long __thp_mask_anon_orders(unsigned long vm_flags,
>                  unsigned long tva_flags, unsigned long orders)
> {
>          const unsigned long always = READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_always);
>          const unsigned long madvise = READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_madvise);
>          const unsigned long inherit = READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_inherit);;
> 	const unsigned long never = ~(always | madvise | inherit);
>          const bool inherit_enabled = hugepage_global_enabled();

Can we just have hugepage_global_never/disabled() to use instead?

> 
> 	/* Disallow orders that are set to NEVER directly ... */
> 	orders &= ~never;
> 
> 	/* ... or through inheritance (global == NEVER). */
> 	if (!inherit_enabled)
 > 		orders &= ~inherit;>
> 	/*
> 	 * Otherwise, we only enforce sysfs settings if asked. In addition,
> 	 * if the user sets a sysfs mode of madvise and if TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS
> 	 * is not set, we don't bother checking whether the VMA has VM_HUGEPAGE
> 	 * set.
> 	 */
> 	if (!(tva_flags & TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS))
> 		return orders;
> 
> 	if (hugepage_global_always())
> 		return orders & (always | inherit);
> 
> 	/* We already excluded never inherit above. */
> 	if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
> 		return orders & (always | madvise | inherit);
> 
> 	return orders & always;
> }
> 
> What do you think?

With the fixup, it would work for me. No magical "mask" variables :D

 > >
>> +       return orders;
>> +}
>> +
>>   /**
>>    * thp_vma_allowable_orders - determine hugepage orders that are allowed for vma
>>    * @vma:  the vm area to check
>> @@ -287,16 +323,8 @@ unsigned long thp_vma_allowable_orders(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>                                         unsigned long orders)
>>   {
>>          /* Optimization to check if required orders are enabled early. */
>> -       if ((tva_flags & TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS) && vma_is_anonymous(vma)) {
>> -               unsigned long mask = READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_always);
>> -
>> -               if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
>> -                       mask |= READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_madvise);
>> -               if (hugepage_global_always() ||
>> -                   ((vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE) && hugepage_global_enabled()))
>> -                       mask |= READ_ONCE(huge_anon_orders_inherit);
>> -
>> -               orders &= mask;
>> +       if (vma_is_anonymous(vma)) {
>> +               orders = __thp_mask_anon_orders(vm_flags, tva_flags, orders);
>>                  if (!orders)
>>                          return 0;
> 
> I pointed out to Baolin that __thp_vma_allowable_orders() handles the orders ==
> 0 case almost immediately so there's no need to do this, it just makes the code
> noisier.

The reason we added it in the first place was to not do the (expensive) 
function call.


-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-12 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-05  8:00 [PATCH v2 0/2] fix MADV_COLLAPSE issue if THP settings are disabled Baolin Wang
2025-06-05  8:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: huge_memory: disallow hugepages if the system-wide THP sysfs " Baolin Wang
2025-06-06 16:49   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-06 18:47     ` Dev Jain
2025-06-09  5:57       ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-07 11:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-07 12:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09  6:18       ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09 15:12         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09  6:10     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09 15:17       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-11  6:59         ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-08 18:37   ` Nico Pache
2025-06-09  6:36     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-11 12:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12  7:51     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-12  8:46       ` Dev Jain
2025-06-12  8:52         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12  8:51       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12 12:45         ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-12 13:05           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12 13:25             ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-12 13:40               ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-12 13:27             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-12 13:29               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-12 14:13                 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-12 14:16                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12 14:20                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-12 14:09               ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-12 14:49                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-13  2:07                   ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-13  5:18                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-12 13:07         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-12 13:13           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12 13:31             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-05  8:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: shmem: disallow hugepages if the system-wide shmem " Baolin Wang
2025-06-07 12:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-07 12:17     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09  6:34       ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09 19:30         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09  6:31     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09 15:33       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-11  7:02         ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-07 12:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] fix MADV_COLLAPSE issue if THP " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-11  7:05   ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-13 14:23 ` Usama Arif
2025-06-13 14:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-13 14:39     ` Usama Arif
2025-06-13 14:42       ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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