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From: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] mm: introduce local state for lazy_mmu sections
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 16:15:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f27a2684-6656-4eb0-8255-e7bc4811ce87@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6965a43-c299-4726-896e-6cccd0a23ae5@suse.com>

On 09/09/2025 12:57, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 09.09.25 11:07, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 08.09.25 09:39, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Note: it is difficult to provide a default definition of
>>> lazy_mmu_state_t for architectures implementing lazy_mmu, because
>>> that definition would need to be available in
>>> arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt_types.h and adding a new generic
>>>   #include there is very tricky due to the existing header soup.
>>
>> Yeah, I was wondering about exactly that.
>>
>> In particular because LAZY_MMU_DEFAULT etc resides somewehere
>> compeltely different.
>>
>> Which raises the question: is using a new type really of any benefit
>> here?
>>
>> Can't we just use an "enum lazy_mmu_state" and call it a day?
>>
>
> The comment about the "header soup" made me look into this problem:
>
> It seems some of the "#include <asm/paravirt.h>" instances in the code
> base can just be dropped.
>
> For the remaining cases I'd like to suggest a reorg of the related
> headers:
> Instead of having the non-paravirt definition in one header and the
> paravirt
> ones in paravirt.h, maybe it would be better to have only the paravirt
> generic definitions in paravirt.h and the specific functions in the
> header
> defining the non-paravirt variant. This would probably resolve the
> problem
> with the "soup", as paravirt.h wouldn't rely on so many other headers.
>
> I'm just preparing a patch doing the removal of the not needed
> includes, but
> I'd be willing to address the disentangling as noted above.
>
> Thoughts?

I don't know enough about these headers to express an informed opinion,
but it does sound like a useful cleanup. Do you think it would allow
<asm/paravirt_types.h> to include <linux/mm_types.h>? This is what we
would need to have a generic definition of lazy_mmu_state_t (which could
be overridden by defining some __HAVE_ARCH macro in <asm/mmu.h>).

- Kevin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-09 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-08  7:39 [PATCH v2 0/7] Nesting support for lazy MMU mode Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] mm: remove arch_flush_lazy_mmu_mode() Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08  9:29   ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-09  9:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] mm: introduce local state for lazy_mmu sections Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08  9:30   ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-09  5:40   ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-09  9:05     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09  9:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:40     ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-09 10:09       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 11:45         ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-09 11:54           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 13:49             ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 14:02               ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 14:28               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-10 15:16                 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-10 15:37                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-11 16:19                     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-11 18:14                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12  7:26                         ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-12  8:04                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12  8:48                             ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-12  8:55                               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 12:37                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-12 12:40                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 12:56                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-12 13:02                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 14:05                                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-12 14:25                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 15:02                                             ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 14:38               ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-10 16:11                 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-11 12:06                   ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-11 16:20                     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 10:57     ` Juergen Gross
2025-09-09 14:15       ` Kevin Brodsky [this message]
2025-09-09 10:08   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-08  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] arm64: mm: fully support nested " Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08  9:30   ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-08  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] x86/xen: support nested lazy_mmu sections (again) Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09  9:13   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:37     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-09  9:56       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 11:28         ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09  9:42   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-08  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] powerpc/mm: support nested lazy_mmu sections Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] sparc/mm: " Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] mm: update lazy_mmu documentation Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08  9:30   ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-08 16:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Nesting support for lazy MMU mode Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  9:10   ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09  2:16 ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-09  9:21   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 13:59     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-12 15:25     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-15  6:28       ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-15 11:19         ` Kevin Brodsky

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