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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>, Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/huge_memory: fix shrinking of all-zero THPs with max_ptes_none default
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 10:51:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb322901-28d6-4f0f-8bc0-bcce165ca250@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20e7f812-c1e7-455f-a523-08fc99024adb@arm.com>

On 14.09.25 16:04, Dev Jain wrote:
>>> ---
>>>    mm/huge_memory.c | 3 ---
>>>    1 file changed, 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
>>> index 26cedfcd74189..aa3ed7a86435b 100644
>>> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
>>> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
>>> @@ -4110,9 +4110,6 @@ static bool thp_underused(struct folio *folio)
>>>    	void *kaddr;
>>>    	int i;
>>>    
>>> -	if (khugepaged_max_ptes_none == HPAGE_PMD_NR - 1)
>>> -		return false;
>>> -
>> I do agree with your usecase, but I am really worried about the amount of
>> work and cpu time the THP shrinker will consume when max_ptes_none is 511
>> (I dont have any numbers to back up my worry :)), and its less likely that
>> we will have these completely zeroed out THPs (again no numbers to back up
>> this statement). We have the huge_zero_folio as well which is installed on read.
> 

FWIW, I am still hesitant on this patch because I think the whole 
deferred split lists + interaction with the shrinker should be cleaned 
up along this patch.

> How about just doing a memcmp() between huge_zero_folio and folio? We know
> exactly how this folio looks like, in case of max_ptes_none == 511, if it
> is to be eligible for shrinking.

I wouldn't really want to optimize for this case, especially given that

(a) I want to remove all direct dependencies on max_ptes_none and any 
special values.

(b) The huge zero folio is not always around

(c) The kmap local prevents us from doing that (in particular on 32bit).


-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-15  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-05 14:11 [PATCH v1] mm/huge_memory: fix shrinking of all-zero THPs with max_ptes_none default David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:37 ` Zi Yan
2025-09-05 14:39   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-06  6:35     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-05 14:43   ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:47     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:58       ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:40 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:53     ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:58       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:01         ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:04           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:16             ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:28               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:53                 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:57                   ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:58                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 16:47                     ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 16:55                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 17:26                         ` Usama Arif
2025-09-08  9:14                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-14 14:04   ` Dev Jain
2025-09-15  8:51     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-05 15:02 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-05 15:36   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 11:32     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-06  6:39 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-08  2:16 ` Baolin Wang

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