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From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slab,rcu: disable KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED for strict grace period
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 08:50:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff139493-1964-4285-947d-1b43fe40f8e5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260324-kasan-kfree-rcu-v1-1-ac58a7a13d03@google.com>

On 3/24/26 22:35, Jann Horn wrote:
> Disable CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED in CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD builds
> so that kernel fuzzers have an easier time finding use-after-free involving
> kfree_rcu().
> 
> The intent behind CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD is that RCU should invoke
> callbacks and free objects as soon as possible (at a large performance
> cost) so that kernel fuzzers and such have an easier time detecting
> use-after-free bugs in objects with RCU lifetime.
> 
> CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED is a performance optimization that queues
> RCU-freed objects in ways that CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD can't
> expedite; for example, the following testcase doesn't trigger a KASAN splat
> when CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED is enabled:
> ```
> struct foo_struct {
>   struct rcu_head rcu;
>   int a;
> };
> struct foo_struct *foo = kmalloc(sizeof(*foo),
>     GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NOFAIL | __GFP_ZERO);
> 
> pr_info("%s: calling kfree_rcu()\n", __func__);
> kfree_rcu(foo, rcu);
> msleep(10);
> pr_info("%s: start UAF access\n", __func__);
> READ_ONCE(foo->a);
> pr_info("%s: end UAF access\n", __func__);
> ```
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>

Hm but with 7.0 we have sheaves everywhere including kmalloc caches, and
there's a percpu rcu_free sheaf collecting kfree_rcu'd objects. Only when
it's full it's submitted to call_rcu() where the callback rcu_free_sheaf()
runs slab_free_hook() including kasan hooks etc. If there's nothing filling
the rcu_free sheaf, the objects can sit there possibly indefinitely.

That means CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED now handles only the rare cases where
kfree_rcu() to the rcu_free sheaf fails (and I still owe it to Ulad to do
something about this).

So to complete the intent of this patch, we should perhaps also skip the
rcu_free sheaf with RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD? (or with !KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED
perhaps as it's also a form of batching).

But then I wonder if the testcase in the changelog appeared to be fixed with
this patch on a 7.0-rcX kernel (base-commit: below is rc3+) because by my
understanding it shouldn't have been. (unless there happened to be enough
kfree_rcu() activity on that cpu+kmalloc cache combination, so that the
rcu_free sheaf got submitted withing that msleep(10)).

> ---
>  mm/Kconfig | 1 +
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> index ebd8ea353687..67a72fe89186 100644
> --- a/mm/Kconfig
> +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> @@ -172,6 +172,7 @@ config SLUB
>  config KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED
>  	def_bool y
>  	depends on !SLUB_TINY && !TINY_RCU
> +	depends on !RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD
>  
>  config SLUB_TINY
>  	bool "Configure for minimal memory footprint"
> 
> ---
> base-commit: b29fb8829bff243512bb8c8908fd39406f9fd4c3
> change-id: 20260324-kasan-kfree-rcu-4e7f490237ef
> 
> --  
> Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-25  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-24 21:35 [PATCH] slab,rcu: disable KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED for strict grace period Jann Horn
2026-03-25  3:00 ` David Rientjes
2026-03-25  3:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-25  5:54 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-25  7:50 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-03-25  8:21   ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-25  8:34     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-25  8:41       ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)

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