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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Matyas Hurtik <matyas.hurtik@cdn77.com>
Cc: "Daniel Sedlak" <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com>,
	"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Neal Cardwell" <ncardwell@google.com>,
	"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Yosry Ahmed" <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 10:43:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <heh23oulcubeuqssykmb6i6uh3vazzpmcymqhi7kif4i26waij@pttojulkfgzk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <okedwjaepuw2b55eki6zyn6l3ngstmml2amoebyvc4orzsxqjs@45tbzonckct5>

On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 10:31:39AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 06:27:22PM +0200, Matyas Hurtik wrote:
> > On 8/7/25 10:52 PM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > 
> > > We definitely don't need a global lock. For memcg->net_pressure_lock, we
> > > need to be very clear why we need this lock. Basically we are doing RMW
> > > on memcg->socket_pressure and we want known 'consistently' how much
> > > further we are pushing memcg->socket_pressure. In other words the
> > > consistent value of diff. The lock is one way to get that consistent
> > > diff. We can also play some atomic ops trick to get the consistent value
> > > without lock but I don't think that complexity is worth it.
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 
> > I tried implementing the second option, making the diff consistent using
> > atomics.
> > Would something like this work?
> > 
> > if (level > VMPRESSURE_LOW) {
> >   unsigned long new_socket_pressure;
> >   unsigned long old_socket_pressure;
> >   unsigned long duration_to_add;
> >   /*
> >     * Let the socket buffer allocator know that
> >     * we are having trouble reclaiming LRU pages.
> >     *
> >     * For hysteresis keep the pressure state
> >     * asserted for a second in which subsequent
> >     * pressure events can occur.
> >     */
> >   new_socket_pressure = jiffies + HZ;
> 
> Add an if condition here if old_socket_pressure is already equal to
> the new_socket_pressure and skip all of the following.
> 
> >   old_socket_pressure = atomic_long_xchg(
> >     &memcg->socket_pressure, new_socket_pressure);
> > 
> >   duration_to_add = jiffies_to_usecs(

One more point, this jiffies_to_usecs() can be done at the read side
i.e. keep socket_pressure_duration in jiffies.

Also TJ suggested to expose this new stat in memory.stat. That will be
easy by just adding seq_buf_printf() at the end of memcg_stat_format().



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-14 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-05  6:44 [PATCH v4] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-05 15:54 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-05 23:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-06 19:20   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 21:54     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-06 22:01       ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 23:34         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-06 23:40           ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 23:51             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-07 10:22           ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-07 20:52             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-14 16:27               ` Matyas Hurtik
2025-08-14 17:31                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-14 17:43                   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-08-07 10:42   ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-09 18:32 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-11 21:31   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-13 12:03   ` Michal Koutný
2025-08-13 18:03     ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-20 16:51       ` Matyas Hurtik
2025-08-20 19:03         ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-20 19:31           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-20 20:37           ` Matyas Hurtik
2025-08-20 21:34             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-21 18:44               ` Matyas Hurtik

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