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From: Ritesh Harjani (IBM) <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
To: YoungJun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sayali Patil <sayalip@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] mm, swap: Enable THP SWAP for PowerPC Book3S64
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 11:00:43 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pl1zdksc.ritesh.list@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aig3PFm9jst8cHxn@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330>

YoungJun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 09, 2026 at 06:49:30PM +0530, Ritesh Harjani (IBM) wrote:
>> On PowerPC Book3S64, MMU is selected at runtime, so macros like PMD_SHIFT are
>> effectively runtime variables in the Book3S64 code. THP swap code uses these
>> macros for e.g. to size some of its array data structures based on PMD_ORDER.
>> This patch series makes that usage dependent on the runtime variable.
>> 
>> Sayali did some performance runs of this on Book3S64 with Radix and it gives
>> 40-50% performance improvement. We also plan to run it with Hash, will soon
>> update the results.
>> 
>> Note that this patch series is based out of linux-next (next-20260608).
>> 
>> Ritesh Harjani (IBM) (4):
>>   include/linux/swap.h: Remove unused leftovers
>>   mm, swap: make SWAPFILE_CLUSTER runtime
>>   mm, swap: make SWAP_NR_ORDERS runtime
>>   powerpc: Kconfig: Enable THP_SWAP on Book3S64
>> 
>>  arch/powerpc/platforms/Kconfig.cputype |   1 +
>>  include/linux/swap.h                   |  17 +---
>>  mm/swap.h                              |   5 +-
>>  mm/swap_table.h                        |   6 +-
>>  mm/swapfile.c                          | 132 ++++++++++++++++++-------
>>  5 files changed, 106 insertions(+), 55 deletions(-)
>> 
>> --
>> 2.39.5
>>
> Hello!
>

Thanks for taking a look at this.

> Instead of making SWAP_NR_ORDERS fully runtime, could we set it to the max
> PMD_ORDER possible on PowerPC Book3S64 as a compile-time constant in the
> swap.h ifdef block? (My assumtion is PMD_ORDER max not too big.)
>
> I think the general runtime version adds cost. It impacts all other archs.
> percpu_swap_cluster needs a runtime alloc,
> the si/offset and nonfull/frag arrays become separate pointers, and some
> accesses get one more indirection. And for nr_orders=1, the allocation
> itself is just waste. 
>
> With a compile-time possible max constant, the only downside is some acceptable amount of
> wasted bytes per CPU / per device on Book3S64 (the unused entries in the swap
> offset cache and the nonfull/frag lists), with no perf impact. the perf
> improvement comes from THP swap itself, right? Other arches see no
> impact at all.
>

I looked into the memory waste comparison between static v/s runtime
alloc. And the wastage for per-cpu alloc data structures (with Radix
MMU) will be 0, because we use kcalloc_node() which will use kmalloc-64
slab. So slab padding would anyway add some memory waste. So it is as
good as using static arrays with some max PMD_ORDER for the
percpu_swap_cluster.

For the other lists you mentioned, it anyways adds a onetime negligible
cost which isn't worth for making SWAP_NR_ORDERS runtime. 

> patch 2 looks fine as is. SWAPFILE_CLUSTER backs much bigger per-cluster
> arrays, so runtime sizing makes sense there, and it looks like no impact to
> other arches or the current code.
>

yup. That make sense. 


So, unless someone else raises any objection - I will give this a try
instead of patch-3 in this series and will get back with v2.


diff --git a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/book3s/64/pgtable.h b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/book3s/64/pgtable.h
index e67e64ac6e8c..57abd8b2c9a1 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/book3s/64/pgtable.h
+++ b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/book3s/64/pgtable.h
@@ -204,6 +204,9 @@ extern unsigned long __pmd_frag_size_shift;
 #define MAX_PTRS_PER_PGD       (1 << (H_PGD_INDEX_SIZE > RADIX_PGD_INDEX_SIZE ? \
                                       H_PGD_INDEX_SIZE : RADIX_PGD_INDEX_SIZE))

+#define ARCH_MAX_PMD_ORDER ((H_PTE_INDEX_SIZE > RADIX_PTE_INDEX_SIZE) ? \
+                               H_PTE_INDEX_SIZE : RADIX_PTE_INDEX_SIZE)
+
 /* PMD_SHIFT determines what a second-level page table entry can map */
 #define PMD_SHIFT      (PAGE_SHIFT + PTE_INDEX_SIZE)
 #define PMD_SIZE       (1UL << PMD_SHIFT)
diff --git a/include/linux/swap.h b/include/linux/swap.h
index 46c25523d7b8..5f1451f8f266 100644
--- a/include/linux/swap.h
+++ b/include/linux/swap.h
@@ -224,10 +224,14 @@ enum {
 #define SWAP_ENTRY_INVALID     0

 #ifdef CONFIG_THP_SWAP
+#ifdef ARCH_MAX_PMD_ORDER
+#define SWAP_NR_ORDERS         (ARCH_MAX_PMD_ORDER + 1)
+#else
 #define SWAP_NR_ORDERS         (PMD_ORDER + 1)
+#endif /* ARCH_MAX_PMD_ORDER */
 #else
 #define SWAP_NR_ORDERS         1
-#endif
+#endif /* CONFIG_THP_SWAP */


-ritesh


      reply	other threads:[~2026-06-10  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-09 13:19 [RFC 0/4] mm, swap: Enable THP SWAP for PowerPC Book3S64 Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2026-06-09 13:19 ` [RFC 1/4] include/linux/swap.h: Remove unused leftovers Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2026-06-10 16:41   ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-09 13:19 ` [RFC 2/4] mm, swap: make SWAPFILE_CLUSTER runtime Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2026-06-09 13:19 ` [RFC 3/4] mm, swap: make SWAP_NR_ORDERS runtime Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2026-06-09 13:19 ` [RFC 4/4] powerpc: Kconfig: Enable THP_SWAP on Book3S64 Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2026-06-09 15:54 ` [RFC 0/4] mm, swap: Enable THP SWAP for PowerPC Book3S64 YoungJun Park
2026-06-10  5:30   ` Ritesh Harjani [this message]

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