From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-man@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, mgorman@suse.de,
npiggin@gmail.com, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Describe race of direct read and fork for unaligned buffers
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 11:38:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x491un3nc7a.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHGf_=rzcfo3OnwT-YsW2iZLchHs3eBKncobvbhTm7B5PE=L-w@mail.gmail.com> (KOSAKI Motohiro's message of "Tue, 1 May 2012 11:34:04 -0400")
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com> wrote:
>> KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you revisit this. But as far as my remember is correct, this issue is NOT
>>>> unaligned access issue. It's just get_user_pages(_fast) vs fork race issue. i.e.
>>>> DIRECT_IO w/ multi thread process should not use fork().
>>>
>>> The problem is, fork (and its COW logic) assume new access makes cow break,
>>> But page table protection can't detect a DMA write. Therefore DIO may override
>>> shared page data.
>>
>> Hm, I've only seen this with misaligned or multiple sub-page-sized reads
>> in the same page. AFAIR, aligned, page-sized I/O does not get split.
>> But, I could be wrong...
>
> If my remember is correct, the reproducer of past thread is misleading.
>
> dma_thread.c in
> http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0903.1/01498.html has
> align parameter. But it doesn't only change align. Because of, every
> worker thread read 4K (pagesize), then
> - when offset is page aligned
> -> every page is accessed from only one worker
> - when offset is not page aligned
> -> every page is accessed from two workers
>
> But I don't remember why two threads are important things. hmm.. I'm
> looking into the code a while.
> Please don't 100% trust me.
I bet Andrea or Larry would remember the details.
Cheers,
Jeff
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-01 15:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-30 9:30 [PATCH] Describe race of direct read and fork for unaligned buffers Jan Kara
2012-04-30 13:41 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-04-30 14:30 ` Mel Gorman
2012-05-01 5:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-01 6:49 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-01 14:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-01 14:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-01 15:11 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-05-01 15:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-01 15:38 ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2012-05-01 15:50 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-01 23:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-05-02 8:17 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 9:09 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-02 9:18 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 19:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-02 19:23 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 19:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-05 11:28 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-05 15:29 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 23:10 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-09 5:35 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-09 7:01 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-09 7:18 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-10 15:00 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-01 16:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-01 17:56 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-02 0:34 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-02 3:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-02 3:10 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-02 9:20 ` Jan Kara
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