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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Rudoff, Andy" <andy.rudoff@intel.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] New MAP_PMEM_AWARE mmap flag
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:02:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49a8mqgni5.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4hMJ_+o2hYU7xnKEWUcKpcPVd66e2KChwL96Qxxk2R8iQ@mail.gmail.com> (Dan Williams's message of "Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:56:17 -0800")

Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> writes:

>> I see.  So I think your argument is that new file systems (such as Nova)
>> can have whacky new semantics, but existing file systems should provide
>> the more conservative semantics that they have provided since the dawn
>> of time (even if we add a new mmap flag to control the behavior).
>>
>> I don't agree with that.  :)
>>
>
> Fair enough.  Recall, I was pushing MAP_DAX not to long ago.  It just
> seems like a Sisyphean effort to push an mmap flag up the XFS hill and
> maybe that effort is better spent somewhere else.

Given Dave's last response to Boaz, I see what you mean, and I also
understand Dave's reasoning better, now.  FWIW, I never disagreed with
spending effort elsewhere for now.  I did think that the mmap flag was
on the horizon, though.  From Dave's comments, I think the prospects of
that are slim to none.  That's fine, at least we have a definite
direction.  Time to update all of the slide decks.  =)

Cheers,
Jeff

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-24 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-21 17:03 [RFC 0/2] New MAP_PMEM_AWARE mmap flag Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 17:04 ` [RFC 1/2] mmap: Define a new " Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 17:06 ` [RFC 2/2] dax: Support " Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 19:51 ` [RFC 0/2] New " Dan Williams
2016-02-21 20:24   ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 20:57     ` Dan Williams
2016-02-21 21:23       ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 22:03         ` Dan Williams
2016-02-21 22:31           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-22  9:57             ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-22 15:34             ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 17:44               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 17:58                 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 18:03                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 18:52                     ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23  9:45                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 20:05                 ` Rudoff, Andy
2016-02-23  9:52                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-23 10:07                     ` Rudoff, Andy
2016-02-23 12:06                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 17:10                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 21:47                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 22:15                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 23:28                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-24  0:08                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 14:10                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 16:56                       ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 17:05                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 17:26                           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 21:55                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 22:33                           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:07                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 23:23                               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:40                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-24  0:08                                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 23:28                             ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 23:34                               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:43                                 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 23:56                                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-24  4:09                                     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-24 19:30                                       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-25  9:46                                         ` Jan Kara
2016-02-25  7:44                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-24 15:02                                     ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2016-02-24 22:56                                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 16:24                                         ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 19:11                                           ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 20:15                                             ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 20:57                                               ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 22:27                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-26  4:02                                                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-26 10:04                                                     ` Thanumalayan Sankaranarayana Pillai
2016-02-28 10:17                                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-03-03 17:38                                                         ` Howard Chu
2016-02-29 20:25                                                   ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 21:08                                               ` Phil Terry
2016-02-25 21:39                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 21:20                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-29 20:32                                             ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 17:25                       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 22:47                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-22 21:50               ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 13:51               ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 14:22                 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 11:05           ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-03-11  6:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 19:07   ` Dan Williams
2016-03-11 19:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 23:02       ` Rudoff, Andy

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