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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	 Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	 Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	 Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	 linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org,  nvdimm@lists.linux.dev,
	 linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,  Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] mm: use memmap_on_memory semantics for dax/kmem
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 15:12:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49fs5r7hj1.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29c9b998-f453-59f2-5084-9b4482b489cf@redhat.com> (David Hildenbrand's message of "Fri, 16 Jun 2023 09:44:50 +0200")

David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:

> On 16.06.23 00:00, Vishal Verma wrote:
>> The dax/kmem driver can potentially hot-add large amounts of memory
>> originating from CXL memory expanders, or NVDIMMs, or other 'device
>> memories'. There is a chance there isn't enough regular system memory
>> available to fit ythe memmap for this new memory. It's therefore
>> desirable, if all other conditions are met, for the kmem managed memory
>> to place its memmap on the newly added memory itself.
>>
>> Arrange for this by first allowing for a module parameter override for
>> the mhp_supports_memmap_on_memory() test using a flag, adjusting the
>> only other caller of this interface in dirvers/acpi/acpi_memoryhotplug.c,
>> exporting the symbol so it can be called by kmem.c, and finally changing
>> the kmem driver to add_memory() in chunks of memory_block_size_bytes().
>
> 1) Why is the override a requirement here? Just let the admin
> configure it then then add conditional support for kmem.
>
> 2) I recall that there are cases where we don't want the memmap to
> land on slow memory (which online_movable would achieve). Just imagine
> the slow PMEM case. So this might need another configuration knob on
> the kmem side.

From my memory, the case where you don't want the memmap to land on
*persistent memory* is when the device is small (such as NVDIMM-N), and
you want to reserve as much space as possible for the application data.
This has nothing to do with the speed of access.

-Jeff



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-13 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-15 22:00 [PATCH 0/3] mm: use memmap_on_memory semantics for dax/kmem Vishal Verma
2023-06-15 22:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/memory_hotplug: Allow an override for the memmap_on_memory param Vishal Verma
2023-06-16  6:35   ` Huang, Ying
2023-06-16  7:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-22 13:37     ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-06-23  8:40   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-06-23 12:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 22:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/memory_hotplug: Export symbol mhp_supports_memmap_on_memory() Vishal Verma
2023-06-16  7:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 22:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] dax/kmem: Always enroll hotplugged memory for memmap_on_memory Vishal Verma
2023-06-16  6:42   ` Huang, Ying
2023-06-16  7:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-11 14:30     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-07-11 15:21       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-13  6:45         ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-07-13  7:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-13 15:15             ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-07-13 15:23               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-13 15:40                 ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-07-13 15:43                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-20 13:14   ` Tarun Sahu
2023-06-16  7:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: use memmap_on_memory semantics for dax/kmem David Hildenbrand
2023-06-21 19:32   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-06-22 13:55     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-13 19:12   ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2023-07-14  8:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-14 13:54       ` Jeff Moyer

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