From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D986B0037 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id bs8so6240397wib.6 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 06:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com. [209.132.183.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id xm5si3834212wib.69.2014.05.13.06.31.34 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 06:31:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Moyer Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sync only the requested range in msync References: <1395961361-21307-1-git-send-email-matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com> <20140423141115.GA31375@infradead.org> <20140512163948.0b365598e1e4d0b06dea3bc6@linux-foundation.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:31:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20140512163948.0b365598e1e4d0b06dea3bc6@linux-foundation.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Mon, 12 May 2014 16:39:48 -0700") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Andrew Morton Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Matthew Wilcox , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, willy@linux.intel.com Andrew Morton writes: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:11:15 -0700 Christoph Hellwig wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 07:02:41PM -0400, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >> > [untested. posted because it keeps coming up at lsfmm/collab] >> > >> > msync() currently syncs more than POSIX requires or BSD or Solaris >> > implement. It is supposed to be equivalent to fdatasync(), not fsync(), >> > and it is only supposed to sync the portion of the file that overlaps >> > the range passed to msync. >> > >> > If the VMA is non-linear, fall back to syncing the entire file, but we >> > still optimise to only fdatasync() the entire file, not the full fsync(). >> > >> > Signed-off-by: Matthew Wilcox >> >> Looks good, >> >> Reviewed-by: Christoph Hellwig > > I worry that if there are people who are relying on the current > behaviour (knowingly or not!) then this patch will put their data at > risk and nobody will ever know. Until that data gets lost, that is. > At some level of cautiousness, this is one of those things we can never > fix. > > I suppose we could add an msync2() syscall with the new behaviour so > people can migrate over. That would be very cheap to do. > > It's hard to know what's the right thing to do here. FWIW, I think we should apply the patch. Anyone using the API properly will not get the desired result, and it could have a negative impact on performance. The man page is very explicit on what you should expect, here. Anyone relying on undocumented behavior gets to keep both pieces when it breaks. That said, I do understand your viewpoint, Andrew, especially since it's so hard to get people to sync their data at all, much less correctly. Acked-by: Jeff Moyer -Jeff -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org