From: Tony Olech <tony.olech@elandigitalsystems.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmc: USB SDIO/SD/MMC Host Controller (VUB300) driver Re-Resubmission
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:32:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1303216358.1622.27.camel@apple-mac> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201104191410.42177.arnd@arndb.de>
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 14:10 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 April 2011, Tony Olech wrote:
> > The purpose of this read-only interface is for VUB300 support
> > staff to obtain information from our customers. Our customers
> > are not like the people on this list. If you have ever tried
> > to do telephone support you would appreciate the difficulty
> > of getting a non-technical person to first of all find the
> > log files and then to extract the correct lines. It therefore
> > follows that if the 1 or 4 bit mode is useful info for the
> > VUB300 support staff, then this read-only interface is the
> > appropriate single place for it to be provided. The overhead
> > of providing such an interface is negligible and the existance
> > of such an interface demonstrates that linux is no longer
> > designed only for geeks.
>
> Wrong answer.
>
> You are missing the point. Sysfs is not the place where you can
> put random interfaces you want for you own needs. By adding
> files there, you create a support burden for everyone who now
> has to maintain backwards-compatibility.
>
> You cannot seriously ask for inclusion of a kernel interface
> just to fit the use of your support team at the expense of
> everyone else.
>
> Please remove the sysfs attributes from the driver before resubmitting.
> We can have a separate discussion about core interfaces that will
> help everyone and that are consistent with how Linux kernels are
> supported.
>
> Arnd
You have not answered my points. If linux is to move from
the preserve of geeks, then support is an issue.
What is wrong in wanting to support non-technical users?
Especially since there are no backward compatible issues
involved at all.
Tony
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2010-11-22 15:05 ` [PATCH] mmc: USB SDIO/SD/MMC Host Controller (VUB300) driver Tony Olech
2010-11-30 6:15 ` Chris Ball
2010-11-30 12:23 ` David Vrabel
2010-12-17 0:43 ` Chris Ball
2010-12-21 15:03 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-06 4:56 ` Chris Ball
2011-01-06 13:18 ` David Vrabel
2011-01-06 13:17 ` David Vrabel
2011-01-20 16:09 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-20 16:11 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-21 10:50 ` [PATCH] mmc: USB SDIO/SD/MMC Host Controller (VUB300) driver Resubmission Tony Olech
2011-01-21 21:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-22 14:21 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-01-22 19:07 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-23 10:09 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-01-23 14:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-24 15:35 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-01-24 16:27 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-24 16:21 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-25 9:13 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-01-25 9:35 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-25 20:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-24 16:17 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-24 8:49 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-24 14:43 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-24 15:10 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-24 15:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-24 16:08 ` Tony Olech
2011-01-24 16:28 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-24 16:43 ` Tony Olech
2011-03-10 16:13 ` [PATCH] mmc: USB SDIO/SD/MMC Host Controller (VUB300) driver Re-Resubmission Tony Olech
2011-03-15 3:01 ` Chris Ball
2011-03-15 9:40 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-03-15 15:06 ` Chris Ball
2011-03-15 15:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-15 16:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-15 16:55 ` Tony Olech
2011-04-19 9:05 ` Tony Olech
2011-04-19 12:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-19 12:32 ` Tony Olech [this message]
2011-04-19 13:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
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