From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>,
Zdenek Kabelac <zdenek.kabelac@gmail.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: Regression in suspend to ram in 2.6.31-rc kernels
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:39:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200909182339.14374.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fxaksdve.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>
On Friday 18 September 2009, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:
>
> > On Saturday 12 September 2009, Chris Ball wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> > Well system could check basic card ids if they match after resume
> >>
> >> No. That (arguably) guarantees that it's the same card, but not that
> >> it wasn't modified in another machine during the suspend.
> >
> > Generally speaking, we'd also need to check superblocks for this to work.
> >
> >> > if some users wants to crash his card by randomly swapping it
> >> > during suspend/resume - I'd have no problem with that....
> >>
> >> You should have a problem with it. Taking a card from a suspended
> >> machine and working on it with a different machine is not a bizarre
> >> thing to want to do.
> >
> > Agreed.
>
> Um...
>
> What happen if we moved remove event to resume sequence? I.e. The
> resume generates remove and insert event (or such revalidate). With
> this, I hope the suspend is not bothered by complex one, and the resume
> just ignores (if needed) previous state and notify it to userland by
> remove/insert event.
>
> And, userland process should unmount for removal devices before suspend
> process (as part of userland preparation)?
>
> If we assumed the removable device can be changed before resume, fs
> would need to recover process, to make sure in-core and on-disk state
> has consistent.
>
> Um..., for now, I feel the umount before suspend is only safe way.
Yes, with the current design it's the only really safe way.
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-18 21:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-31 11:51 Regression in suspend to ram in 2.6.31-rc kernels Zdenek Kabelac
2009-08-31 19:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-01 9:34 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2009-09-03 22:29 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2009-09-03 23:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-04 0:47 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-04 9:13 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2009-09-05 17:22 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-05 19:53 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2009-09-05 22:42 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-08 8:10 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2009-09-09 13:15 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-07 12:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-09 13:21 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-10 19:23 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-11 6:39 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-11 20:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-11 21:14 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2009-09-11 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-11 21:45 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2009-09-11 21:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-11 22:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-14 20:05 ` Pierre Ossman
2009-09-14 20:25 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-11 22:29 ` Chris Ball
2009-09-11 22:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-14 8:39 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2009-09-14 19:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-14 20:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-18 11:15 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-18 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-09-11 22:22 ` Chris Ball
2009-09-11 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-11 22:21 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-11 22:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-08 19:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-08 19:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-09 13:52 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
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