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From: Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Cc: Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@samsung.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@nokia.com>,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	matt@console-pimps.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Linus WALLEIJ <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	Pierre Ossman <pierre-list@ossman.eu>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC RESEND] sdhci-s3c: support clock enable/disable (clock-gating)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 05:09:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100930040958.GA3170@void.printf.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1009292334050.1146@xanadu.home>

Hi,

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:42:01PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> As I already said here: 
> 
> 	http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.omap/39411
> 
> I find those callbacks rather problematic.  Currently, 
> mmc_host_disable() is called by the host driver (currently OMAP) and 
> that's wrong.  Such decision cannot be made in the controller driver -- 
> it has to be made higher up the stack.

I strongly agree.  I hadn't noticed that aspect of this design until
today.  It looked like Linus W had a nice core-integrated clocking
framework almost ready to go a year ago, but it lost out.  (Something
left to do was to give extra time after a request in case we're on a
broken card which requires the card clock to be present during its
writeback.)

I'm not sure where to go from here -- advice welcome.  It would
perhaps be ideal if Linus W and Adrian could work together to make
the current framework look more like Linus' original intent and then
move omap_hsmmc to it as painlessly as possible.  Of course I wouldn't
expect this to happen quickly.

In the meantime, I would suggest that we should not accept any more
users of this framework, which would be a NACK to Jaehoon's patch
(which appears to my reading not to achieve any power-saving anyway).

Adrian, I'm sorry that I'm suggesting reverting -- or at least strongly
modifying -- a framework after it's already shipped in a release; if
you think this is unreasonable, I'll consider your argument carefully.

Thanks,

-- 
Chris Ball   <cjb@laptop.org>   <http://printf.net/>
One Laptop Per Child

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-30  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-16  6:46 [RFC RESEND] sdhci-s3c: support clock enable/disable (clock-gating) Jaehoon Chung
2010-09-17 13:40 ` Matt Fleming
2010-09-25  8:21   ` Jae hoon Chung
2010-09-28  5:29     ` Jaehoon Chung
2010-09-29 23:37 ` Chris Ball
2010-09-30  3:42   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-30  4:09     ` Chris Ball [this message]
2010-09-30  4:31       ` Kyungmin Park
2010-09-30  7:22         ` Linus Walleij
2010-09-30 13:30           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-10-05  2:08           ` Chris Ball

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