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From: Srinivas Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Gaurav Kashyap <quic_gaurkash@quicinc.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, omprsing@qti.qualcomm.com,
	quic_psodagud@quicinc.com, avmenon@quicinc.com,
	abel.vesa@linaro.org, quic_spuppala@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/10] Hardware wrapped key support for qcom ice and ufs
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 11:00:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2230571a-114c-0d03-d02a-fa08c2a8d483@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230829181223.GA2066264@google.com>

Hi Eric,

On 29/08/2023 19:12, Eric Biggers wrote:
> 
>>> They're also being documented by Qualcomm.  So, as this patchset does, they can
>>> be used by Linux in the implementation of new ioctls which provide a vendor
>>> independent interface to HW-wrapped key generation, import, and conversion.
>>>
>>> I think the new approach is the only one that is viable outside the Android
>>> context.  As such, I don't think anyone has any plan to upstream support for
>>> HW-wrapped keys for older Qualcomm SoCs that lack the new interface.
>> AFAIU, There are other downstream Qualcomm LE platforms that use wrapped key
>> support with the older interface.
>> What happens to them whey then upgrade the kernel?
>>
>> Does TA interface still continue to work with the changes that went into
>> common drivers (ufs/sd)?
> This is a strange line of questioning for upstream review, as this feature does
> not exist upstream.  This is the first time it will be supported by upstream
> Linux, ever.  Adding support for this feature does not break anything.
These are not unusual questions, what am trying to understand here is 
below questions for better context, big picture and review/test. At the 
end of the day we all want to get these features available in upstream.

1. How backward compatibility of this wrapped key support. I guess the 
answer is NO.

2. secondly reasons behind this change. Am still not really convinced 
with the current technical reasoning to shift from TA based approach to 
this. But I guess this is all done to dump the closed source userspace 
thingy. Am hoping that this can be made available to other older SoCs at 
some point in time.

3. We are adding these apis/callbacks in common code without doing any 
compatible or SoC checks. Is this going to be a issue if someone tries 
fscrypt?

--srini

> 
> Downstream users who implemented a less well designed version of this feature
> can continue to use their existing code.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-30 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-19 17:04 [PATCH v2 00/10] Hardware wrapped key support for qcom ice and ufs Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] ice, ufs, mmc: use blk_crypto_key for program_key Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] qcom_scm: scm call for deriving a software secret Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-22  3:50   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-07-22  4:18     ` Eric Biggers
2023-07-22 17:31       ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] soc: qcom: ice: add hwkm support in ice Gaurav Kashyap
2023-08-31  8:39   ` Neil Armstrong
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] soc: qcom: ice: support for hardware wrapped keys Gaurav Kashyap
2023-08-31  9:10   ` Neil Armstrong
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] ufs: core: support wrapped keys in ufs core Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] ufs: host: wrapped keys support in ufs qcom Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] qcom_scm: scm call for create, prepare and import keys Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-19 17:48   ` Trilok Soni
2023-07-22  3:40   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-07-22  4:11     ` Eric Biggers
2023-07-22 17:32       ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] ufs: core: add support for generate, import and prepare keys Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] soc: qcom: support for generate, import and prepare key Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-22  3:56   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-07-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] ufs: host: " Gaurav Kashyap
2023-07-20  2:55 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Hardware wrapped key support for qcom ice and ufs Eric Biggers
2023-08-01 17:31   ` Gaurav Kashyap (QUIC)
2023-08-10  5:36     ` Eric Biggers
2023-08-11  0:27       ` Gaurav Kashyap (QUIC)
2023-08-11  2:19         ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-25 10:19 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-08-25 21:07   ` Eric Biggers
2023-08-29 17:11     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-08-29 18:12       ` Eric Biggers
2023-08-30 10:00         ` Srinivas Kandagatla [this message]
2023-08-30 16:12           ` Eric Biggers
2023-08-30 16:44             ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-09-12 10:06     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-09-19 23:18       ` Gaurav Kashyap
2023-08-29 21:06 ` Konrad Dybcio

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