From: J Freyensee <james_p_freyensee@linux.intel.com>
To: Praveen G K <praveen.gk@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: slow eMMC write speed
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:59:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E837C89.9020109@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHzg1A9H31hWdEKR5+_p8HuA_oq6o8EkESpJ22kQ4e4oFDH8GQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/28/2011 12:06 PM, Praveen G K wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Linus Walleij
> <linus.walleij@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Praveen G K<praveen.gk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am working on the block driver module of the eMMC driver (SDIO 3.0
>>> controller). I am seeing very low write speed for eMMC transfers. On
>>> further debugging, I observed that every 63rd and 64th transfer takes
>>> a long time.
>>
>> Are you not just seeing the card-internal garbage collection?
>> http://lwn.net/Articles/428584/
> Does this mean, theoretically, I should be able to achieve larger
> speeds if I am not using linux?
In theory in a fairy-tale world, maybe, in reality, not really. In R/W
performance measurements we have done, eMMC performance in products
users would buy falls well, well short of any theoretical numbers. We
believe in theory, the eMMC interface should be able to support up to
100MB/s, but in reality on real customer platforms write bandwidths (for
example) barely approach 20MB/s, regardless if it's a Microsoft Windows
environment or Android (Linux OS environment we care about). So maybe
it is software implementation issues of multiple OSs preventing higher
eMMC performance numbers (hence the reason why I sometimes ask basic
coding questions of the MMC subsystem- the code isn't the easiest to
follow); however, one looks no further than what Apple has done with the
iPad2 to see that eMMC probably just is not a good solution to use in
the first place. We have measured Apple's iPad2 write performance on
*WHAT A USER WOULD SEE* being double what we see with products using
eMMC solutions. The big difference? Apple doesn't use eMMC at all for
the iPad2.
So, is this a software issue? or if
> there is a way to increase the size of bounce buffers to 4MB?
>
>> Yours,
>> Linus Walleij
>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-28 19:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-23 5:05 slow eMMC write speed Praveen G K
2011-09-28 5:42 ` Linus Walleij
2011-09-28 19:06 ` Praveen G K
2011-09-28 19:59 ` J Freyensee [this message]
2011-09-28 20:34 ` Praveen G K
2011-09-28 21:01 ` J Freyensee
2011-09-28 21:03 ` Praveen G K
2011-09-28 21:34 ` J Freyensee
2011-09-28 22:24 ` Praveen G K
2011-09-28 22:59 ` J Freyensee
2011-09-28 23:16 ` Praveen G K
2011-09-29 0:57 ` Philip Rakity
2011-09-29 2:24 ` Praveen G K
2011-09-29 3:30 ` Philip Rakity
2011-09-29 7:24 ` Linus Walleij
2011-09-29 8:17 ` Per Förlin
2011-09-29 20:16 ` J Freyensee
2011-09-30 8:22 ` Andrei E. Warkentin
2011-10-01 0:33 ` J Freyensee
2011-10-02 6:20 ` Andrei E. Warkentin
2011-10-03 18:01 ` J Freyensee
2011-10-03 20:19 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-10-03 21:00 ` J Freyensee
2011-10-04 7:59 ` Andrei E. Warkentin
2011-10-19 23:27 ` Praveen G K
2011-10-20 15:01 ` Andrei E. Warkentin
2011-10-20 15:10 ` Praveen G K
2011-10-20 15:26 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-10-20 16:07 ` Praveen G K
2011-10-21 4:45 ` Andrei E. Warkentin
2011-09-29 7:05 ` Linus Walleij
2011-09-29 7:33 ` Linus Walleij
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