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From: Tanya Brokhman <tlinder@codeaurora.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, merez@codeaurora.org,
	kdorfman@codeaurora.org
Subject: Re: FLUSH mechanism implementation in block layer
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:13:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <516502ED.8040307@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130409190336.GG6186@mtj.dyndns.org>

Hi Tejun

Thank you for the detailed explanation!

Best Regards
Tanya Brokhman
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On 4/9/2013 10:03 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 07:19:19AM +0300, Tanya Brokhman wrote:
>> completed after the FLUSH. But perhaps there is a correct way to
>> move the implementation of "ordering around the flush" to the block
>> layer? Not that it would work better, it just feels that logically -
>> block layer is the place to do it at.
>> What do you think?
>
> It used to be implemented that way - REQ_BARRIER.  The problem was
> that filesystems wanted multiple dependency streams - ie. fdatasync()
> of a file doesn't need to drain all other IOs in progress.  We could
> do coloring of IOs - ie. give IOs which may need flushing later but
> belong to different dependency streams different colors and let block
> layer figure out partial drainining, which would work but at the same
> time be pretty nasty and complex.  The thing was that most filesystems
> were already drainings IOs and didn't need any ordering guarantee from
> block layer.  hch took care of the outliers which were depending on
> REQ_BARRIER ordering guarantees and we just stripped the ordering
> mechanism which immediately improved performance noticeably in certain
> workloads.
>
> It was done that way mostly out of convenience at that time but now I
> think of it it's the correct thing to do.  It just is too much
> information to communicate downwards and the extra communication
> overhead doesn't really buy anything.
>
> Thanks.
>




      reply	other threads:[~2013-04-10  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-07 13:15 FLUSH mechanism implementation in block layer Tanya Brokhman
2013-04-07 16:33 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08  4:19   ` Tanya Brokhman
2013-04-09 19:03     ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-10  6:13       ` Tanya Brokhman [this message]

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