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From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: Chris Ball <chris@printf.net>,
	linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>, Philip Rakity <prakity@nvidia.com>,
	Girish K S <girish.shivananjappa@linaro.org>,
	Al Cooper <alcooperx@gmail.com>,
	Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:23:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B51C55.9060500@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFo_51e=BERS9qX6x_LbK3tM5aijOicVkhQ5==39b+C93Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/01/15 13:25, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> Thanks for working on this and apologize for my late reply!
> 
> On 5 December 2014 at 18:41, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com> wrote:
>> Currently, there is core support for tuning during
>> initialization. There can also be a need to re-tune
>> periodically (e.g. sdhci) or to re-tune after the
>> host controller is powered off (e.g. after PM
>> runtime suspend / resume) or to re-tune in response
>> to CRC errors.
>>
>> The main requirements for re-tuning are:
>>   - ability to enable /disable re-tuning
>>   - ability to flag that re-tuning is needed
>>   - ability to re-tune before any request
>>   - ability to hold off re-tuning if the card is busy
>>   - ability to hold off re-tuning if re-tuning is in
>>   progress
>>   - ability to run a re-tuning timer
> 
> I suggest we skip the support for the re-tuning timer in this initial
> step and thus remove the related functionality from this patchset. It
> adds complexity, but more important it's not obvious that it actually
> will help. I am more concerned that it randomly will cause a request
> latency and thus decrease performance.
> 
> The re-tuning period can't be selected "perfectly", so in this initial
> step let's instead just rely on re-tune from the request retry path.
> 
> If we do see a need for a doing re-tuning periodically, how about
> using the runtime PM suspend path (of the mmc card device). In that
> way, we should be able to minimize the impact on performance.

Thank you for looking at the patches.

I am not sure I know what you mean. sdhci already has a re-tuning timer, so
this is just moving it into core, where it won't be used by other drivers
unless they enable it.

I am not sure what you want to leave in sdhci.c and what you want in core,
if anything.

At a minimum I need sdhci to be able to switch from hs400 to hs200, re-tune,
and switch back.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-13 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-05 17:40 [RFC PATCH 00/13] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:40 ` [PATCH 01/13] mmc: core: Simplify by adding mmc_execute_tuning() Adrian Hunter
2015-01-13 11:19   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 02/13] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-01-13 11:25   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-13 13:23     ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2015-01-13 14:22       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-13 14:36         ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-13 14:56           ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-13 15:11             ` Arend van Spriel
2015-01-13 15:41               ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-13 16:02                 ` Arend van Spriel
2015-01-14  9:47                   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-14  9:57                     ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-14 10:13                       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-14 12:24                         ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-14 12:59                           ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-15 10:17                             ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-15 13:39                               ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-15 14:07                                 ` Arend van Spriel
2015-01-15 14:17                                   ` Arend van Spriel
2015-01-15 14:46                                     ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-15 14:59                                       ` Arend van Spriel
2015-01-19  9:27                                         ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-19  9:56                                           ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-14 12:38                         ` Arend van Spriel
2015-01-14 12:52                           ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-13 15:04         ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 03/13] mmc: core: Disable re-tuning when card is no longer initialized Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 04/13] mmc: core: Move mmc_card_removed() into mmc_start_request() Adrian Hunter
2015-01-13 11:20   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 05/13] mmc: core: Add support for re-tuning before each request Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 06/13] mmc: core: Check re-tuning before retrying Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 07/13] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning during switch commands Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 08/13] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning during erase commands Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 09/13] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning while bkops ongoing Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 10/13] mmc: mmc: Comment that callers need to hold re-tuning if the card is put to sleep Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 11/13] mmc: core: Add support for HS400 re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 12/13] mmc: sdhci: Always init buf_ready_int Adrian Hunter
2015-01-13 11:21   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-12-05 17:41 ` [PATCH 13/13] mmc: sdhci: Change to new way of doing re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2014-12-19 14:07 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2014-12-19 14:37   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-01-12 13:05   ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-13 11:27 ` Ulf Hansson

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