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From: Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>, Philip Rakity <prakity@nvidia.com>,
	Al Cooper <alcooperx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 01/15] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 12:30:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <551D1A59.5060803@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFp=DBj1==KVBxbZqE9Zo9F7QAxENcU_dqXUb5pvyNrv5A@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/02/15 10:43, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> [...]
>>>>>     - ability to hold off re-tuning if the card is busy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean by "card is busy"?
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess, more accurately, any time the card is in a state that is
>>> incapable
>>> of supporting re-tuning. For example:
>>>          - DAT0 busy
>>
>>
>> This state is not specific to re-tuning. An SDIO device can keep DAT0 busy
>> at which the host controller can not start another request.
>
> Not entirely true. Some commands are allowed during this period, for
> example CMD13 (which doesn't exist for SDIO)

Yeah. I was wondering whether to mention that.

> Anyway, I get the point. Thanks!
>
>>
>>>          - between dependent commands like erase start, end, etc
>>>          - card is asleep
>>> Also SDIO cards can have a custom sleep state where tuning won't work.
>>
>>
>> Our SDIO wifi device has such a state and it can only come out of it upon
>> CMD52 write or CMD14 (ExitSleep).
>
> So how will the mmc core know about these states? I guess we will
> require SDIO func drivers to deal with enable/disable or hold/release
> of re-tuning then?

This is actually why in the past we tried to only kick off retuning 
before a request that requires use of data line(s) so mmc core (or 
sdhci) would not do re-tuning when SDIO func used CMD52 to wakeup the 
device. I never tried CMD14 approach and not even sure from which spec 
it comes (maybe eMMC).

> I don't like this, but if there is no other way... Also, we must be
> very careful on which API we exports for SDIO func drivers to use. The
> can easily be misinterpreted.
>
> [...]
>
> Kind regards
> Uffe

Regards,
Arend

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-02 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-27 20:57 [PATCH V4 00/15] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 01/15] " Adrian Hunter
2015-04-01  9:50   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-01 11:47     ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-01 15:10       ` Arend van Spriel
2015-04-02  8:43         ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 10:30           ` Arend van Spriel [this message]
2015-04-02 12:10             ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 12:18               ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-02 12:25                 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 12:27                   ` Arend van Spriel
2015-04-02 12:43                     ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-02 14:00                       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-03  2:59                         ` NeilBrown
2015-04-08  7:42                         ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-13 12:07                           ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-14 13:38                             ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-14 16:52                               ` Arend van Spriel
2015-04-16  7:24                               ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-16  8:59                                 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-16 11:28                                   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 13:05       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 16:18         ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-13 12:30           ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-14 13:13             ` Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 02/15] mmc: core: Disable re-tuning when card is no longer initialized Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 03/15] mmc: core: Add support for re-tuning before each request Adrian Hunter
2015-04-01 10:13   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-01 12:08     ` Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 04/15] mmc: core: Check re-tuning before retrying Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 05/15] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning during switch commands Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 06/15] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning during erase commands Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 07/15] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning while bkops ongoing Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 08/15] mmc: mmc: Comment that callers need to hold re-tuning if the card is put to sleep Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 09/15] mmc: core: Separate out the mmc_switch status check so it can be re-used Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 10/15] mmc: core: Add support for HS400 re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 11/15] mmc: sdhci: Change to new way of doing re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 12/15] mmc: sdhci: Flag re-tuning is needed on CRC or End-Bit errors Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 13/15] mmc: block: Check re-tuning in the recovery path Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 14/15] mmc: block: Retry errored data requests when re-tuning is needed Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 15/15] mmc: core: Don't print reset warning if reset is not supported Adrian Hunter
2015-04-01  6:21 ` [PATCH V4 00/15] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-04-10 10:39   ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-10 10:52     ` Ulf Hansson

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